anyway, in the very first sentence richard d james mentions 'chilling with some mates in scotland'... there are two of them. I know it sounds crazy, but i thought since this is purely a speculation topic, why not post a wild speculation?
So how great would it be if afx and boc were buddies?
Bahaha, that last question.
LOL
For some reason all I could think of after reading it was (Beavis as) Cornholio's "Are you threatening me?" line. Awesome.
I AM GOD. THE ULTIMATE RESONANCE.
There are a lot of different 'me's, you know. There's the mad me, when I get angry.
anyway, in the very first sentence richard d james mentions 'chilling with some mates in scotland'... there are two of them. I know it sounds crazy, but i thought since this is purely a speculation topic, why not post a wild speculation?
So how great would it be if afx and boc were buddies?
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
ps I am a mahoosive afx fan (as in fucking huge lol)
anyway, in the very first sentence richard d james mentions 'chilling with some mates in scotland'... there are two of them. I know it sounds crazy, but i thought since this is purely a speculation topic, why not post a wild speculation?
So how great would it be if afx and boc were buddies?
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
ps I am a mahoosive afx fan (as in fucking huge lol)
I'm consoling myself that there's probably more than two people in Scotland.
anyway, in the very first sentence richard d james mentions 'chilling with some mates in scotland'... there are two of them. I know it sounds crazy, but i thought since this is purely a speculation topic, why not post a wild speculation?
So how great would it be if afx and boc were buddies?
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
ps I am a mahoosive afx fan (as in fucking huge lol)
I'm consoling myself that there's probably more than two people in Scotland.
anyway, in the very first sentence richard d james mentions 'chilling with some mates in scotland'... there are two of them. I know it sounds crazy, but i thought since this is purely a speculation topic, why not post a wild speculation?
So how great would it be if afx and boc were buddies?
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
ps I am a mahoosive afx fan (as in fucking huge lol)
I'm consoling myself that there's probably more than two people in Scotland.
TaoTapeTao wrote:Their music is responsible for me understanding nature as mathematical and that in fact math is nature and math is organic and not some unnatural strange set or rules or laws we came up with one day. Maybe psychedelics helped in this understanding too.. lol. Well both of those combined I guess.
Math is no more or less 'natural' than other languages. Pure math is essentially a bunch of games with rules invented by humans, but some natural phenomena or patterns can be 'understood' (or reflected in the human consciousness) in terms of the concepts and symbolic systems we invented, like numbers, space and time, and various branches of mathematics. So I disagree with your assertion that math and nature are identical. That idea seems naively anthropocentric. There is so much more in nature than any humans will ever be able to understand or express in words, math, music or any other form of culture or communication.
anyway, in the very first sentence richard d james mentions 'chilling with some mates in scotland'... there are two of them. I know it sounds crazy, but i thought since this is purely a speculation topic, why not post a wild speculation?
So how great would it be if afx and boc were buddies?
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
yeah man! i want it to be true so badly haha.
I'm pretty sure boc have mentioned aphex twin in past interviews...
boc wrote:Do you ever think of making the music and images all in the one go? Do you think of your music in terms of images?
Of course, but more in a natural intuitive way, rather than being deliberate about it. The most outstanding electronic musicians, like Aphex Twin, like their music to sound “cinematique”, in other words, in terms of images. It’s a way of working that is all the easier for musicians who don’t specifically have the dancefloor in mind when they’re making a track. If you can dance to one of our tracks, well and good, but it’s not what we’re aiming at. We give ourselves the greatest possible freedom to work in, with the goal of translating emotions rather than trying to make people dance. There are plenty of people who can do that better than we can. So what would be the point of setting ourselves up to make a worse job of it?
TaoTapeTao wrote:Their music is responsible for me understanding nature as mathematical and that in fact math is nature and math is organic and not some unnatural strange set or rules or laws we came up with one day. Maybe psychedelics helped in this understanding too.. lol. Well both of those combined I guess.
Math is no more or less 'natural' than other languages. Pure math is essentially a bunch of games with rules invented by humans, but some natural phenomena or patterns can be 'understood' (or reflected in the human consciousness) in terms of the concepts and symbolic systems we invented, like numbers, space and time, and various branches of mathematics. So I disagree with your assertion that math and nature are identical. That idea seems naively anthropocentric. There is so much more in nature than any humans will ever be able to understand or express in words, math, music or any other form of culture or communication.
Humans like to have systems and put rules, undertand, organize, reduce the perceived entropy into something manageable. While maths are a human invention or set of rules, the underlying principles remain as they are, the mass of the proton is such and is such everywhere, Pi has the same value everywhere within the universe (can't speak of others as the basic laws/rules might be totally different and play on spacetime curvature etc) but you get my drift.
I wouldn't want people to imagine that Pi is 3.141592... just because it was explained as such, no matter which system or rules, the ratio for a circle is the same across the universe and that is true of many other things.
TaoTapeTao wrote:Their music is responsible for me understanding nature as mathematical and that in fact math is nature and math is organic and not some unnatural strange set or rules or laws we came up with one day. Maybe psychedelics helped in this understanding too.. lol. Well both of those combined I guess.
Math is no more or less 'natural' than other languages. Pure math is essentially a bunch of games with rules invented by humans, but some natural phenomena or patterns can be 'understood' (or reflected in the human consciousness) in terms of the concepts and symbolic systems we invented, like numbers, space and time, and various branches of mathematics. So I disagree with your assertion that math and nature are identical. That idea seems naively anthropocentric. There is so much more in nature than any humans will ever be able to understand or express in words, math, music or any other form of culture or communication.
Humans like to have systems and put rules, undertand, organize, reduce the perceived entropy into something manageable. While maths are a human invention or set of rules, the underlying principles remain as they are, the mass of the proton is such and is such everywhere, Pi has the same value everywhere within the universe (can't speak of others as the basic laws/rules might be totally different and play on spacetime curvature etc) but you get my drift.
I wouldn't want people to imagine that Pi is 3.141592... just because it was explained as such, no matter which system or rules, the ratio for a circle is the same across the universe and that is true of many other things.
anyway, in the very first sentence richard d james mentions 'chilling with some mates in scotland'... there are two of them. I know it sounds crazy, but i thought since this is purely a speculation topic, why not post a wild speculation?
So how great would it be if afx and boc were buddies?
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
ps I am a mahoosive afx fan (as in fucking huge lol)
I'm consoling myself that there's probably more than two people in Scotland.
Re: The Maths discussion thingy - we created it and because as a language we understand many things through it, we then say things 'are mathematical' when we are technically referring to those pre-existing laws are rules of form which have been crucially identified and expressed in maths, such that they are closely linked - that's what I assume TTT above is getting at, not meant too literally (because that would be silly) but I could be wrong?
TaoTapeTao wrote:Their music is responsible for me understanding nature as mathematical and that in fact math is nature and math is organic and not some unnatural strange set or rules or laws we came up with one day. Maybe psychedelics helped in this understanding too.. lol. Well both of those combined I guess.
Math is no more or less 'natural' than other languages. Pure math is essentially a bunch of games with rules invented by humans, but some natural phenomena or patterns can be 'understood' (or reflected in the human consciousness) in terms of the concepts and symbolic systems we invented, like numbers, space and time, and various branches of mathematics. So I disagree with your assertion that math and nature are identical. That idea seems naively anthropocentric. There is so much more in nature than any humans will ever be able to understand or express in words, math, music or any other form of culture or communication.
I guess I was being to vague but I was mostly trying to say that I've observed nature and the universe to be a highly complex, self referencing system/organism which can be compared to our language of mathematics. Basically what betacord just said.
Yes math comes from our observations of laws of the universe but I mean more that it is highly organized and complex and self referencing "being" and works much like the mathematical idea of fractals. And that after some psychedelic experiences my previous notion of mathematics as just a set of strange rules was replaced with an understanding of it being a reflection of a much more inherent and organic behavior of the universe, and that we've picked up on this pattern of nature and created mathematics as a language to describe it.
And since math is an extension of ourselves, it IS natural. We come from nature. Also in general since we created maths as a result of observed behaviors of the universe and nature it is therefore a reflection (although ultimately imperfect) of the behavior of the universe and there is established a significant connection between math and nature. How else would we be able to make incredible predictions about the behavior of the universe and physics and countless other things?
But yes, for the most part I agree with what you're saying, and that language is only an approximation of what is really going on. Ultimately it boils down to plato's cave and us humans are stuck trying to describe the (I believe) infinity of nature/the universe through our limited perception and experience of it.
