____twoism

Ottomatik wrote:

Moloch wrote:Still waiting for my LP to arrive. I've decided that my next listen of the album would be on vinyl, so this is a tad annoying.

No sign of it either
Why bother being among the first to order on Bleep if it can't guarantee an ontime delivery... Let's just hope customs are being slow and the parcel isn't actually lost.

My thoughts exactly. Had I known, I would have ordered from my local retailer... I hope our parcels aren't lost either.

Spirit Fingers wrote:I should note that I lingered after the playback and listened to a conversation between a Warp rep and a couple of writers from prominent pubs that the message from the brothers was zero interviews this time round (though the rep noted they had said the same last time so who knows)

That makes me sad. To drop a banger of an album after 13 years and not get to hear their thoughts on the process of making it.

rossisdead wrote:

Spirit Fingers wrote:I should note that I lingered after the playback and listened to a conversation between a Warp rep and a couple of writers from prominent pubs that the message from the brothers was zero interviews this time round (though the rep noted they had said the same last time so who knows)

That makes me sad. To drop a banger of an album after 13 years and not get to hear their thoughts on the process of making it.

I feel you. On the other hand, I think it's cool to let the fans decide what the album is about instead of giving a clear statement like with Tomorrow's Harvest.

akirako wrote:I just got my special edition LP! I couldn't find it anywhere, the shop I bought it from has got only one left now and the normal edition is nowhere to be found.

Where are you based? There's definitely still some available in the UK

MindElevation wrote:

akirako wrote:I just got my special edition LP! I couldn't find it anywhere, the shop I bought it from has got only one left now and the normal edition is nowhere to be found.

Where are you based? There's definitely still some available in the UK

Barcelona! I got mine at Paradiso Records.

anyone else notice that Platonia ends on the note that begins Prophecy? or am i in inferno psychosis?

akirako wrote:

MindElevation wrote:

akirako wrote:I just got my special edition LP! I couldn't find it anywhere, the shop I bought it from has got only one left now and the normal edition is nowhere to be found.

Where are you based? There's definitely still some available in the UK

Barcelona! I got mine at Paradiso Records.

Nice to know there are fellow Spaniard/Catalan fans lurking about. I didn't notice many non-foreigners at the Barcelona listening party. I would assume their soundscape and themes have always resonated more within the anglosphere and northern europeans, but they are definitively spreading!

Moloch wrote:

Ottomatik wrote:

Moloch wrote:Still waiting for my LP to arrive. I've decided that my next listen of the album would be on vinyl, so this is a tad annoying.

No sign of it either
Why bother being among the first to order on Bleep if it can't guarantee an ontime delivery... Let's just hope customs are being slow and the parcel isn't actually lost.

My thoughts exactly. Had I known, I would have ordered from my local retailer... I hope our parcels aren't lost either.

I got my red vinyl on Friday morning but still no sign of CD.

pigammon wrote:anyone else notice that Platonia ends on the note that begins Prophecy? or am i in inferno psychosis?

I definitely think this is intentional!

I just have to say, in the best way possible, I feel overwhelmed with this album. It's a feast.

I don't know if anyone else is experiencing it this way, but I've only listened to it once yet I feel like it has such a lasting power in my subconscious. Fragments of it that I don't even know the titles for yet are echoing in my head in a dreamlike way, like they're growing larger in my mind instead of fading away.

I think I'm going to enjoy Inferno more intermittently than other albums I like a lot because it just...stays, and I don't want to rush the experience of becoming familiar with the album when the sensation of it lingering feels so uniquely special.

Got my copy today. Came with the flexi disc!

Ordered through bandcamp. Never once got any kind of shipping notice.

The Reappearance of Christ in the Etheric
The Last Messiah
Future Christ: A Lesson in Heresy

Have had four listens so far: LA session, headphones, car x2. Astonishing album, every track. I genuinely feel sorry for anyone somehow not satisfied by this.

Redd Panderson wrote:I just have to say, in the best way possible, I feel overwhelmed with this album. It's a feast.

I don't know if anyone else is experiencing it this way, but I've only listened to it once yet I feel like it has such a lasting power in my subconscious. Fragments of it that I don't even know the titles for yet are echoing in my head in a dreamlike way, like they're growing larger in my mind instead of fading away.

I think I'm going to enjoy Inferno more intermittently than other albums I like a lot because it just...stays, and I don't want to rush the experience of becoming familiar with the album when the sensation of it lingering feels so uniquely special.

I feel exactly the same, have listened just once a day since release so far - every time I'm finding different songs or sections and fragments of songs are staying with me and drawing me back in the next day. There's a hell of a lot to digest and absorb and I'm making time to let it all unfold. That approach has reaped huge rewards before and still does - hearing new things in Tomorrow's Harvest 13 years later.

Inferno is absolutely phenomenal and I've only listened 4 times so far, can only imagine how much more I'm going to love it in a few years.

Yeah, I still can't listen to You Retreat after it broke me the last time. I will try to save that one for special occasions.

Widmerpool wrote: Nice to know there are fellow Spaniard/Catalan fans lurking about. I didn't notice many non-foreigners at the Barcelona listening party. I would assume their soundscape and themes have always resonated more within the anglosphere and northern europeans, but they are definitively spreading!

Hey!

Despite the sunny weather there's a gloomy and introspective side to Catalonia. Barcelona is a post-industrial town and it didn't rust to death because of the service economy, but nobody's exactly happy about the way things are going and even the Olympic redevelopment/gentrification scheme was sort of traumatic. Except for St Miquel and Barceloneta all of the beaches are artificial and built on brownfield/former industrial waste disposal pipelines. The Forum is built on Francoist execution grounds. They were killing so many people they'd make them stand in a row, then mount a machine gun on a car and drive by until nobody was standing. Plus if you go back in history there's not a lot of happy times. Basically everyone has a list of people they'd kill if another civil war broke out lmao, we're just too polite and cowardly in a twisted way (despite being such an insufferably loud and brash town). You know, like how nobody tells the guys rapping in the metro to fuck off but everyone rants about them in private. It's also like that when things get ugly because, despite being loud as fuck, nobody wants to stand out like that.

But Primavera Sound for instance started in Barcelona and it does employ a lot of locals in decision making positions. I don't like their business model but I mean there's definitely a strong local musical intelligentsia. Canada the artsy advertising/music video studio is also from Barcelona and they've made some stuff for Warp bands, Battles iirc. Vagina Dentata Organ, the guy that rants about serial killers on that Whitehouse album was from Barcelona too, etc.

There's a fair bit of local experimental music too but I guess yeah, that's not even close to where the mainstream has been for ages, and since both Spanish and Catalan public TV has become dreadful I don't think there's going to be much in the way of making any sort of less mainstream music reach the public. It used not to be like that, and at least 5 or so years ago betevé had a couple of good programmes, I wonder what it's like now. Overall the scene is in a deep crisis but it has more to do with how difficult it's become to book a venue and how much of a right-winger in disguise Collboni is, rather than lack of interest. Sad times but being bitter and complaining all the time, then not doing anything about it is the quintessential Catalan character trait

So this album clearly has oodles of detail, including what sounds like other songs practically built into and complimenting the rest of the song they're in the mix of

What if BOC like...hid some snippets of songs from their pre-Twoism albums in the mix of Inferno? Can you imagine all of us thirsting for Closes Vol. 1 or whatever and a track from it hiding in the mix all along and teasing us? Knowing that a big part of their creative process involves using older recorded material as sources to build new songs with and around, for all we know a few aspects within these compositions may have been plucked from those early 5 unicorn albums.

Altruizine wrote:Do you think the bros are reading this forum to see what's being said about the record? With Tomorrow's Harvest they were "curious to see what hidden messages get picked up on". How do they receive that information? The most plausible explanation is to just read the conversations yourself. It should be more entertaining too than relying on MDG or whatever to give them the highlights. They are the only ones who know exactly what messages were embedded in the music.

"With "The Campfire Headphase" we tried to make it as simple as possible," explains Michael. "We wanted to scale everything down to the core and write music that was simple. The album is a road movie about a man who parks his car and pitches his tent. The music is what goes on in the man's head as he sits in front of the campfire before he goes to bed. The album leaked online this week and I read some reactions to it on a discussion forum. Half said "they were a lot better on 'Music Has the Right to Children', why can't they sound like that instead of experimenting?". The other half said "uh, they sound just like they always did". It's simply not possible to win."

"Damned if you don't, damned if you don't," says Marcus and shrugs. "I still love "Music Has the Right to Children" but we could never make an album that sounds like that now."

https://bocpages.org/wiki/De_var_f%C3%B6rst_med

Redd Panderson wrote:So this album clearly has oodles of detail, including what sounds like other songs practically built into and complimenting the rest of the song they're in the mix of

What if BOC like...hid some snippets of songs from their pre-Twoism albums in the mix of Inferno? Can you imagine all of us thirsting for Closes Vol. 1 or whatever and a track from it hiding in the mix all along and teasing us? Knowing that a big part of their creative process involves using older recorded material as sources to build new songs with and around, for all we know a few aspects within these compositions may have been plucked from those early 5 unicorn albums.

That's made me think of the interview where one of them said that a song on TH was actually a reworking of one of their songs (paraphrasing so might be off) from the old tunes era. Was there ever a consensus on what was?

shinealight wrote:

Redd Panderson wrote:So this album clearly has oodles of detail, including what sounds like other songs practically built into and complimenting the rest of the song they're in the mix of

What if BOC like...hid some snippets of songs from their pre-Twoism albums in the mix of Inferno? Can you imagine all of us thirsting for Closes Vol. 1 or whatever and a track from it hiding in the mix all along and teasing us? Knowing that a big part of their creative process involves using older recorded material as sources to build new songs with and around, for all we know a few aspects within these compositions may have been plucked from those early 5 unicorn albums.

That's made me think of the interview where one of them said that a song on TH was actually a reworking of one of their songs (paraphrasing so might be off) from the old tunes era. Was there ever a consensus on what was?

Yes, actually, and it was both one of my favorite R35TT tracks + one of my favorite TH tracks (both two of my favorite BOC tracks in general!)

It's A14: compare it to New Seeds