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Does anyone here have any of these symptoms I've developed? Basically out of nowhere, I've been having panic attacks and lastnight sleep paralysis out of nowhere. I hadn't had either before and haven't been particularly stressed or anything. Infact mentally I've felt quite good which makes it all the more strange. Also the past couple of days I've felt quite fatigued with sore joints and muscles. Gonna go to the docs to see what the cause is, crazy shizzle!

BrandNewRetro wrote:Does anyone here have any of these symptoms I've developed? Basically out of nowhere, I've been having panic attacks and lastnight sleep paralysis out of nowhere. I hadn't had either before and haven't been particularly stressed or anything. Infact mentally I've felt quite good which makes it all the more strange. Also the past couple of days I've felt quite fatigued with sore joints and muscles. Gonna go to the docs to see what the cause is, crazy shizzle!

I know how you feel man. The sleep paralysis bit is likely due to your sleeping schedule (you're a late bunny like me ). I've not had a panic attack for about 2 months now, but the very first one i did have, left a symptom that doesn't seem to go away straight away - the feeling of a lump in your throat, when infact, no lump is actually present (medical term for this is 'Globus hystericus'). Panic attacks can happen to anyone at anytime as well, dunno why! It sucks, but hopefully your doctor can reassure you . I can also relate to the joints and muscles bit, back in November last year, i felt very weak, and twitchy, had feelings of electric shocks going through my fingers and everything. It's amazing what the human brain can do.

jakestott wrote:

BrandNewRetro wrote:Does anyone here have any of these symptoms I've developed? Basically out of nowhere, I've been having panic attacks and lastnight sleep paralysis out of nowhere. I hadn't had either before and haven't been particularly stressed or anything. Infact mentally I've felt quite good which makes it all the more strange. Also the past couple of days I've felt quite fatigued with sore joints and muscles. Gonna go to the docs to see what the cause is, crazy shizzle!

I know how you feel man. The sleep paralysis bit is likely due to your sleeping schedule (you're a late bunny like me ). I've not had a panic attack for about 2 months now, but the very first one i did have, left a symptom that doesn't seem to go away straight away - the feeling of a lump in your throat, when infact, no lump is actually present (medical term for this is 'Globus hystericus'). Panic attacks can happen to anyone at anytime as well, dunno why! It sucks, but hopefully your doctor can reassure you . I can also relate to the joints and muscles bit, back in November last year, i felt very weak, and twitchy, had feelings of electric shocks going through my fingers and everything. It's amazing what the human brain can do.

Yeah I've definitely had the electric shocks in the fingers thing, and occassional tingling in the arms and pains in the legs. It could even be a circulation/blood pressure issue, I've literally not been to the doctors since I was a kid so have frig all idea about my blood pressure, any allergies etc. About time I found out methinks! Woke up feeling much better today and had a good sleep when I eventually nodded off. Still have slightly weak feeling joints but that's about it, for today at least!

Didn't know there was a term for that "lump in the throat" feeling. Had that for a few days recently. Definitely stress in my case.

Feeling it slightly today, but that might be due to winning a Juno 60 on ebay and feeling excited/anxious about it.

I have pretty much zero motivation or ambition (other than working enough to afford a basic apartment), and no friends other than my gf. I've always been not so good at the human contact and making connections thing, and haven't made any new friends in about seven years. I do have some mild anxiety when meeting people, but more than that it just seems I hardly ever have anything to say and can't relate very well. It bothers me sometimes. Probably a good deal more this summer, since my gf is a couple hundred miles away for a summer job and I only see her every two weeks or so. If it weren't for her I would probably go months without having a real face to face conversation with anyone.

I'm tired of "relating" to people through message boards all the time. I don't want my human contact to be in IMs or posts or the occasional phone call -- even though those things probably help keep me a bit saner than I would be without them. I just want to know a few people who enjoy being around me in person, people I can converse with face to face. Not that high of a bar to clear, really, but seemingly next to impossible for me to find.

Oh well, my parents are dropping by for a day soon, so that will give me some meaningful human contact for a bit.

Blah.

BrandNewRetro wrote:

jakestott wrote:

BrandNewRetro wrote:Does anyone here have any of these symptoms I've developed? Basically out of nowhere, I've been having panic attacks and lastnight sleep paralysis out of nowhere. I hadn't had either before and haven't been particularly stressed or anything. Infact mentally I've felt quite good which makes it all the more strange. Also the past couple of days I've felt quite fatigued with sore joints and muscles. Gonna go to the docs to see what the cause is, crazy shizzle!

I know how you feel man. The sleep paralysis bit is likely due to your sleeping schedule (you're a late bunny like me ). I've not had a panic attack for about 2 months now, but the very first one i did have, left a symptom that doesn't seem to go away straight away - the feeling of a lump in your throat, when infact, no lump is actually present (medical term for this is 'Globus hystericus'). Panic attacks can happen to anyone at anytime as well, dunno why! It sucks, but hopefully your doctor can reassure you . I can also relate to the joints and muscles bit, back in November last year, i felt very weak, and twitchy, had feelings of electric shocks going through my fingers and everything. It's amazing what the human brain can do.

Yeah I've definitely had the electric shocks in the fingers thing, and occassional tingling in the arms and pains in the legs. It could even be a circulation/blood pressure issue, I've literally not been to the doctors since I was a kid so have frig all idea about my blood pressure, any allergies etc. About time I found out methinks! Woke up feeling much better today and had a good sleep when I eventually nodded off. Still have slightly weak feeling joints but that's about it, for today at least!

I think I've found out what the problem is, years of having extremely bad posture. The past couple of days I've been correcting my posture and exercising back and neck muscles, at first I could feel nerves in my arms and back zinging around and now I feel much better.

BrandNewRetro wrote:

BrandNewRetro wrote:

jakestott wrote: I know how you feel man. The sleep paralysis bit is likely due to your sleeping schedule (you're a late bunny like me ). I've not had a panic attack for about 2 months now, but the very first one i did have, left a symptom that doesn't seem to go away straight away - the feeling of a lump in your throat, when infact, no lump is actually present (medical term for this is 'Globus hystericus'). Panic attacks can happen to anyone at anytime as well, dunno why! It sucks, but hopefully your doctor can reassure you . I can also relate to the joints and muscles bit, back in November last year, i felt very weak, and twitchy, had feelings of electric shocks going through my fingers and everything. It's amazing what the human brain can do.

Yeah I've definitely had the electric shocks in the fingers thing, and occassional tingling in the arms and pains in the legs. It could even be a circulation/blood pressure issue, I've literally not been to the doctors since I was a kid so have frig all idea about my blood pressure, any allergies etc. About time I found out methinks! Woke up feeling much better today and had a good sleep when I eventually nodded off. Still have slightly weak feeling joints but that's about it, for today at least!

I think I've found out what the problem is, years of having extremely bad posture. The past couple of days I've been correcting my posture and exercising back and neck muscles, at first I could feel nerves in my arms and back zinging around and now I feel much better.

Glad you've found out the problem man and glad you're feeling better!

I have read a lot of talk about Anxiety and panic attacks on this board, and I have also been suffering with these two for almost three years now. I recently had to move back to my parents because they got so bad, I was having a few daily.

All the symptoms were:

The feeling of a lump in your throat,
Shaking hands,
Poor coordinations,
Utter confusion,
Inability to speak rationaly,
Extreem self-conciousness,
A strange out of body sensation (disasociation),
Erratic heart beat,
etc...

To make things worse my doctor would only give me all the same advice I had read thousands of times elsewhere.

That was a few months ago, and things have gotten so much better.

I started cycling (around 8 miles minimum every day) and Swimming. I also took up meditation, so that I would cycle to a nice relaxing spot by the ocean, and meditate for a while before cycling back home. These things help more than I could have imagined, helping me to feel positive and physicaly healthy.

Despite that boost, I still had regular anxiety episodes. So I changed Doctors when I moved back to my parents and they have prescribed me with Beaterblockers (Prapranolol), you can read about them here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propranolol

After about three weeks on them, I have had only a few panic attacks. The realy seem to help me relax and feel comfortable again.

I brought this up for a couple of reasons,

Is anyone taking anything simmilar? If so how do you find them?
I would like to hear people opinion/experience with this.

I know lots of people feel uncomfortable medicating what is oftain a psychological dissorder,
what would anyone think is the down side of these things?

I did try counceling for a few months, but my councelor spent most of his time talking about random stuff and rarely ever gave me a chance to speak. It helped a little, but not as much as this medication.

I think if anyones anxiety is realy effecting their lives and getting in the way of people being who they are, you realy should go to the doctors and ask for help. Its nothing to be imbarrased or shy about.

Pantheon wrote:I have read a lot of talk about Anxiety and panic attacks on this board, and I have also been suffering with these two for almost three years now. I recently had to move back to my parents because they got so bad, I was having a few daily.

All the symptoms were:

The feeling of a lump in your throat,
Shaking hands,
Poor coordinations,
Utter confusion,
Inability to speak rationaly,
Extreem self-conciousness,
A strange out of body sensation (disasociation),
Erratic heart beat,
etc...

To make things worse my doctor would only give me all the same advice I had read thousands of times elsewhere.

That was a few months ago, and things have gotten so much better.

I started cycling (around 8 miles minimum every day) and Swimming. I also took up meditation, so that I would cycle to a nice relaxing spot by the ocean, and meditate for a while before cycling back home. These things help more than I could have imagined, helping me to feel positive and physicaly healthy.

Despite that boost, I still had regular anxiety episodes. So I changed Doctors when I moved back to my parents and they have prescribed me with Beaterblockers (Prapranolol), you can read about them here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propranolol

After about three weeks on them, I have had only a few panic attacks. The realy seem to help me relax and feel comfortable again.

I brought this up for a couple of reasons,

Is anyone taking anything simmilar? If so how do you find them?
I would like to hear people opinion/experience with this.

I know lots of people feel uncomfortable medicating what is oftain a psychological dissorder,
what would anyone think is the down side of these things?

I did try counceling for a few months, but my councelor spent most of his time talking about random stuff and rarely ever gave me a chance to speak. It helped a little, but not as much as this medication.

I think if anyones anxiety is realy effecting their lives and getting in the way of people being who they are, you realy should go to the doctors and ask for help. Its nothing to be imbarrased or shy about.

They're rubbish aren't they Mine have come back, it's amazing how much they can drain you physically and mentally. Argh!

I remember the day i was going to the doctors, i worked myself up pretty bad, was meant to be going somewhere in the morning, but i had to cancel because i really couldn't face it, and just basically cried my eyes out to my mum because i didn't like all the symptoms i had. I'm not a gullible person, but i got myself into a phase of going on Google and typing my symptoms, and believing i had whatever i could find (I came across MS, brain tumours etc). I had a strong pulse in my stomach, which was uncomfortable. At night i would drift in and out of sleep, but it felt like i was under anaesthetic, feeling drowsy and hallucinating. The hallucinations were just weird to be honest, i remember looking at my Geogaddi vinyl records i have pinned to the wall, and they ended up spinning, flashing, and setting themselves on fire.

Pantheon, i wish i could help you on the medication front, but i didn't take any meds for my bout of anxiety at all. I always find it difficult swallowing tablets, i end up gagging.

I would too advise anyone who is experiencing symptoms to go to your doctors so they can put your mind at rest. And then think to yourself, you will overcome it. It might take time, but it's definitely achievable.

Gay I am feeling sad now!

jakestott wrote:I remember the day i was going to the doctors, i worked myself up pretty bad, was meant to be going somewhere in the morning, but i had to cancel because i really couldn't face it, and just basically cried my eyes out to my mum because i didn't like all the symptoms i had. I'm not a gullible person, but i got myself into a phase of going on Google and typing my symptoms, and believing i had whatever i could find (I came across MS, brain tumours etc). I had a strong pulse in my stomach, which was uncomfortable. At night i would drift in and out of sleep, but it felt like i was under anaesthetic, feeling drowsy and hallucinating. The hallucinations were just weird to be honest, i remember looking at my Geogaddi vinyl records i have pinned to the wall, and they ended up spinning, flashing, and setting themselves on fire.

Pantheon, i wish i could help you on the medication front, but i didn't take any meds for my bout of anxiety at all. I always find it difficult swallowing tablets, i end up gagging.

I would too advise anyone who is experiencing symptoms to go to your doctors so they can put your mind at rest. And then think to yourself, you will overcome it. It might take time, but it's definitely achievable.

Man it really does sound like we're in a similar boat at the moment! Today I had an attack that bad and a complete and utter feeling of dismay that my dad decided I should go to A & E to make sure there were no underlying causes. It's been a long time since I've been in a hospital, and the whole experience made me constantly anxious and shaky throughout. It's nice to know now that after blood tests and a heart scan I seem to be ok physically, the doc decided to upgrade my meds to the pretty hardcore diazapam temporarily to see if it stops my anxiety, if not...there could well be an underlying cause. I feel bad as there's lots of stuff I should have done by now, there should have been a couple of lovely new Retronym releases up but this week has been an entire haze and I've spent the whole week feeling like absolute crap phyically, and unable to concentrate on anything (hell I haven't even been online for a week, that's saying something!). Just want to feel 'normal' again, and after today's episode I think I can start to feel better. I've never been an anxious or depressed person, so everything that's gone on lately was previously very alien to me, and I can wholeheartedly empaphise with anyone who has/does go through depression and anxiety. I'm on the meds right now and do feel a lot better, but the overall tiredness and muscle/joint pain and other strange bodily feelings are still proving a bit of a distraction. The anxiety isn't there but the physical symptoms still are a bit, I'm not sure if that's a bad thing or not...maybe my body is just wondering what the frig it's been doing to itself over the past couple of weeks, attacks can really take it out of you! The mind is a very powerful tool, sometimes it can be amazing and sometimes it can be the worst thing in the world that you wish you could switch off sometimes! Still, here's to good times to come for anyone going through these horrible moments in life!

Pantheon wrote: Despite that boost, I still had regular anxiety episodes. So I changed Doctors when I moved back to my parents and they have prescribed me with Beaterblockers (Prapranolol), you can read about them here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propranolol

After about three weeks on them, I have had only a few panic attacks. The realy seem to help me relax and feel comfortable again.

I brought this up for a couple of reasons,

Is anyone taking anything simmilar? If so how do you find them?
I would like to hear people opinion/experience with this.

I know lots of people feel uncomfortable medicating what is oftain a psychological dissorder,
what would anyone think is the down side of these things?

I did try counceling for a few months, but my councelor spent most of his time talking about random stuff and rarely ever gave me a chance to speak. It helped a little, but not as much as this medication.

I think if anyones anxiety is realy effecting their lives and getting in the way of people being who they are, you realy should go to the doctors and ask for help. Its nothing to be imbarrased or shy about.

Also Pantheon, I was put on Propranolol a couple of days ago too. It did seem to settle me down a bit, but then I had a mega attack when I woke up this morning and ended up in A & E as mentioned in the above post. Have you had any blood tests done and had an EKG? I really recommend it if not, it can really help to put the mind at rest knowing there's nothing wrong in that department. There didn't seem to be any downsides to Propranolol though and I'll probably resume them tomorrow, hope all goes well dude!

BrandNewRetro wrote:

jakestott wrote:I remember the day i was going to the doctors, i worked myself up pretty bad, was meant to be going somewhere in the morning, but i had to cancel because i really couldn't face it, and just basically cried my eyes out to my mum because i didn't like all the symptoms i had. I'm not a gullible person, but i got myself into a phase of going on Google and typing my symptoms, and believing i had whatever i could find (I came across MS, brain tumours etc). I had a strong pulse in my stomach, which was uncomfortable. At night i would drift in and out of sleep, but it felt like i was under anaesthetic, feeling drowsy and hallucinating. The hallucinations were just weird to be honest, i remember looking at my Geogaddi vinyl records i have pinned to the wall, and they ended up spinning, flashing, and setting themselves on fire.

Pantheon, i wish i could help you on the medication front, but i didn't take any meds for my bout of anxiety at all. I always find it difficult swallowing tablets, i end up gagging.

I would too advise anyone who is experiencing symptoms to go to your doctors so they can put your mind at rest. And then think to yourself, you will overcome it. It might take time, but it's definitely achievable.

Man it really does sound like we're in a similar boat at the moment! Today I had an attack that bad and a complete and utter feeling of dismay that my dad decided I should go to A & E to make sure there were no underlying causes. It's been a long time since I've been in a hospital, and the whole experience made me constantly anxious and shaky throughout. It's nice to know now that after blood tests and a heart scan I seem to be ok physically, the doc decided to upgrade my meds to the pretty hardcore diazapam temporarily to see if it stops my anxiety, if not...there could well be an underlying cause. I feel bad as there's lots of stuff I should have done by now, there should have been a couple of lovely new Retronym releases up but this week has been an entire haze and I've spent the whole week feeling like absolute crap phyically, and unable to concentrate on anything (hell I haven't even been online for a week, that's saying something!). Just want to feel 'normal' again, and after today's episode I think I can start to feel better. I've never been an anxious or depressed person, so everything that's gone on lately was previously very alien to me, and I can wholeheartedly empaphise with anyone who has/does go through depression and anxiety. I'm on the meds right now and do feel a lot better, but the overall tiredness and muscle/joint pain and other strange bodily feelings are still proving a bit of a distraction. The anxiety isn't there but the physical symptoms still are a bit, I'm not sure if that's a bad thing or not...maybe my body is just wondering what the frig it's been doing to itself over the past couple of weeks, attacks can really take it out of you! The mind is a very powerful tool, sometimes it can be amazing and sometimes it can be the worst thing in the world that you wish you could switch off sometimes! Still, here's to good times to come for anyone going through these horrible moments in life!

Hey man. The physical symptoms seem to stay around for a bit. It was months before i felt 'normal' again. Takes time for the body to rest unfortunately. If you need to talk, PM me on facebook if you want!

As for me, I'm having a rough ass time these past few days. Drinking and getting stoned seem to make me happy when I feel this helpless, but I don't want to develop a habit of relying on them. Think I might go sober for a while again.

A couple of nights ago I got so smashed man, was being a typical drunken dick. Was fun, but it seems like sometimes I just drink and drink to get as fucked as possible. Asked my friend to buy me a drink too once I'd run out of money, which he did. But yeah, I have to be careful.

Something that's bothering me right now is I'm unemployed, and supposed to be looking for a job, but I can't bring myself to do it and I think my parent's patience might run out soon.

Last night, for the first time, I started drawing things that were inspired by my anger, really crazy shit but it helped me alot. I ended up feeling really good, but today I just feel rough again.

I conclude that I am going to suffer from this for a long time, if not forever. Sometimes I just want to scream, and other times I want to cry. When I sat down with some music on today I felt such a weight on me, like it was too much effort to move at all. The good times make it worthwhile, but I just don't know how I'm going to do this job/college thing.

So I still feel like shit and the doctors are starting to come round to the fact that there may indeed be something wrong with me, but they're finding it hard to work out what. I no longer get panic attacks and rarely feel particularly anxious but the physical symptoms are still there, I've learned to accept them without getting too worried about them, and they're getting worse. I'm waking up now stiff as a board every morning, certain body parts feel arthritic at times, muscle spasms are becoming more frequent and my skin is turning drier than a desert snake on shedding day! There's a possibility of Fibromyalgia which my mum has and its possibly heriditory, but quite rare in men. I'd settle for that though at the moment as it could be something worse like MS. Argh, rubbish!

For as far back as I can remember I've suffered from depression. EDIT- My memory when it comes to past events is actually quite shit... I'd estimate since I was 7 or 8..? It seems to be quite random... I could be having the best day of my life and I'd suddenly feel like crying... from what I've read it sounds a lot like the type of shit people who are bipolar go through, but one of my most-hated group of people in the world are doctors (right behind teachers and politicians)... so again, it's something I probably won't talk to them about. (I haven't even began to explain the extent of my depressive moods... but I really don't want to be here all day...)

Over the last week or two any attempts at keeping things together basically fell apart. I've been having fairly severe panic attacks (by my standards, at least) daily, often multiple times a day.

I find it quite funny (in a twisted, slightly masochistic way) that whenever I try and thing about the future, I start to panic. I'm not even talking about five, ten years from now, I mean thinking "What do I want to do tomorrow" makes me panic.

So yeah, I'm sleeping very little but being unable to get out of bed for most of the day. I can't find inspiration from anything and I feel like killing people... another week in the life of me...

hexagonLife wrote:...but I just don't know how I'm going to do this job/college thing.

I'm in the same boat. I have the advantage of still being young (I turn 17 in January) and not being in education (...long story slightly related to something I mentioned here. I left school because of bullying, I haven't been able to properly deal with the stuff that happened, flashbacks making me unable to continue education or properly deal with people, yada yada.) So I get a few years of trying to make a career doing something creative before I seriously have to consider getting a real job (...actually, I think I'd probably kill myself in the process of failing to create said career... not in a depressive way, but in a "get rich or die trying" way... only for me it's "not caring about becoming rich but being able to move somewhere which isn't the UK and pay the bills... or die trying")


Stay strong fellow... whatever-the-hell-it-is-we-call-ourselves!

BrandNewRetro wrote:

Pantheon wrote: Despite that boost, I still had regular anxiety episodes. So I changed Doctors when I moved back to my parents and they have prescribed me with Beaterblockers (Prapranolol), you can read about them here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propranolol

After about three weeks on them, I have had only a few panic attacks. The realy seem to help me relax and feel comfortable again.

I brought this up for a couple of reasons,

Is anyone taking anything simmilar? If so how do you find them?
I would like to hear people opinion/experience with this.

I know lots of people feel uncomfortable medicating what is oftain a psychological dissorder,
what would anyone think is the down side of these things?

I did try counceling for a few months, but my councelor spent most of his time talking about random stuff and rarely ever gave me a chance to speak. It helped a little, but not as much as this medication.

I think if anyones anxiety is realy effecting their lives and getting in the way of people being who they are, you realy should go to the doctors and ask for help. Its nothing to be imbarrased or shy about.

Also Pantheon, I was put on Propranolol a couple of days ago too. It did seem to settle me down a bit, but then I had a mega attack when I woke up this morning and ended up in A & E as mentioned in the above post. Have you had any blood tests done and had an EKG? I really recommend it if not, it can really help to put the mind at rest knowing there's nothing wrong in that department. There didn't seem to be any downsides to Propranolol though and I'll probably resume them tomorrow, hope all goes well dude!

hey sorry for the late reply, i havent checked this thread in quite a while. I havent had any blood tests done, or an EKG. The doctors have never mentioned any of thoes things to me, and have actualy been extreemly unhelpfull. I was given no help at all even after having a huge anxieny attack in the doctors room (i want even able to speak at that point). I only got put on propranalol after mentioning it to a different doctor.

How did you arange to have an EKG and blood tests? It sounds like a good thing to have done.

So far i've had great results with propranalol. Some of the things i have experienced taking them are a few heart flutters now and then and some occational strong halucinations that last about few minuits, about half an hour to an hour after taking them. But i'd much rather that than the alternative.

I hope your feeling better dude.
Peace.

i was on the brink of suicide last night, i suffer from extreme fears and extremely low self esteem (especially for a 25 y/o male), i drank alcohol for the first time in 10 weeks although i was very serious about my attempt to quit, i felt extremely relaxed which is a rarity in my life, if i knew where to buy a gun i would get one and hold it to my head during all these lonesome nights and cry, why are many of these creative, honest, intelligent minds here on twoism so plagued by mental illness