GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC PART II

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egbdf wrote:The channel never went away, but had they removed the profile pic and banner and just brought them back? I don’t recall whether they were gone
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Gotcha. And do we actually know the reactivation occurred yesterday or is that just the first time someone noticed?
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egbdf wrote:Gotcha. And do we actually know the reactivation occurred yesterday or is that just the first time someone noticed?
A bot on the The Magic Window Discord server reports automatically on this.
It happened at Sunday 2025-11-16 approximately 16:23 UK time.
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egbdf wrote:Well that’s because I’m generally checking the forum everyday just because I have little ritualistic habits.

The thing I’m not sure about this time is — what constituted the reactivation? The channel never went away, but had they removed the profile pic and banner and just brought them back? I don’t recall whether they were gone
Here is internet archive from earlier this year (no image!):

https://web.archive.org/web/20250721104 ... olBoundary
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This is pathetic and meaningless.
Please do anything else.
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derp! wrote:This is pathetic and meaningless.
Please do anything else.
Troll away, its you that is the loser.
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derp! wrote:This is pathetic and meaningless.
Please do anything else.
I have completely stepped away from boc speculation for over a year and a half traveling and enjoying life so a revamp of Sheol Boundary was a nice surprise. No need for insults in a SPECULATION thread.
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I believe it's intentional and we'll see something, hopefully soon, from the reactivation of the account. I think it should be taken into consideration that they are well aware that we pay attention to literally any and every little action or change they do on the internet.
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One fun tidbit I didn't share in 2021 during the whole sheol thing just because of the suspicion people had about me (I get it) was: I checked the youtube API to get the exact creation timestamp (not just date) of the Sheol channel and it was something like 1 hour after the timestamp from the HI bandcamp banner, not merely the same day. i.e., the bandcamp file was 'saved' an hour before the Sheol channel was created.
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That is a great piece of info. Thanks for sharing!
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egbdf wrote:One fun tidbit I didn't share in 2021 during the whole sheol thing just because of the suspicion people had about me (I get it) was: I checked the youtube API to get the exact creation timestamp (not just date) of the Sheol channel and it was something like 1 hour after the timestamp from the HI bandcamp banner, not merely the same day. i.e., the bandcamp file was 'saved' an hour before the Sheol channel was created.
Here are the BST (UTC+1) timestamps, in order of events:
  • publishedAt Mon Sep 30, 2013 19:19:51 (Sheol Boundary YT channel)
  • CreateDate Mon Sep 30, 2013 20:02:36 (Hell Interface Bandcamp community banner image)
  • ModifyDate Mon Sep 30, 2013 21:57:27 (Hell Interface Bandcamp community banner image)
Seems Sheol Boundary was published about 43 minutes before the Hell Interface banner creation date.
I think this adds credence to the theory Sheol Boundary is in fact Hell Interface. It is certainly better that Sheol was created first rather than the other way around, which is more often the case with trolling.

This also implies the Uuh video was uploaded somewhere between 19:19 and 23:59 on Sep 30, 2013.

The original Melodic Fragment topic was posted Aug 21, 2013 on this forum by egbdf. This gave BoC ample time to create the Uuh parody video.

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I tried searching the page source of an Internet Archive snapshot of the Uuh video page to see if I could get an exact upload timestamp but alas, there's nothing more specific than the day.Image
Fredd-E wrote:This also implies the Uuh video was uploaded somewhere between 19:19 and 23:59 on Sep 30, 2013.
At this point we're splitting hairs, but I think it's more likely the video was uploaded after they made the banner, because creating a new channel would have prompted them for icon and banner images. So somewhere between only 21:57 and 23:59. I could be wrong though, and again at this point it doesn't really matter.
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You know that all that meta information embedded in the website html/json whatever you want is editable with something as dumb as notepad or vi or whatever flavour of a basic text editor you have, as such I would not put too much credit to that information being cast in stone, it could just be some nerd with access fucking with the heads of people.

Same thing for the metadata of a picture, editable at will with absolutely no way to control or establish anything certain.

If it is online, then there is absolutely no certainty of anything. To quote the prescient song "Hypnotized by the Rhythm" by Forbidden
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Electric disguise indeed.

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You can’t edit a YouTube channel’s published date. Unless you have the power to hack YouTube…
And the Hell Interface Bandcamp = 100% legit. The images uploaded there with their metadata are legit too.

We simply noticed the creation date of Sheol Boundary is practically the same as their official Hell Interface Bandcamp.

You do the math.
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magrathea_ultima wrote:You know that all that meta information embedded in the website html/json whatever you want is editable with something as dumb as notepad or vi or whatever flavour of a basic text editor you have, as such I would not put too much credit to that information being cast in stone, it could just be some nerd with access fucking with the heads of people.

Same thing for the metadata of a picture, editable at will with absolutely no way to control or establish anything certain.

If it is online, then there is absolutely no certainty of anything. To quote the prescient song "Hypnotized by the Rhythm" by Forbidden
We watch hypnotized
Addicted to lies
What we see is electric disguise...
Electric disguise indeed.

The internet is evil, wake up.
this is stored serverside. only youtube internally has ability to modify this. all of this is out there, no one modified the filecontents, all there for you to read. certainly requires more than "some nerd with access". boc is not crazy popular to a point where youtube interns would be purposefully modifying such metadata.
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niski wrote:
this is stored serverside.
Yes, it is, and? you would be surprised what 20$ can get you.
niski wrote:only youtube internally has ability to modify this.
See above
niski wrote:all of this is out there, no one modified the filecontents, all there for you to read. certainly requires more than "some nerd with access". boc is not crazy popular to a point where youtube interns would be purposefully modifying such metadata.
It's an opinion that seems like it would be prevalent and make sense.

but it is an opinion nonetheless, not a fact.
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Ah yeah I guess I got before/after mixed up since it’s been a few years, but within an hour either way. Thanks for the details
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