sleepysilverdoor wrote:Comparing it to Music Has the Right to Children really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. It's far more brooding and moody than MHTRTC (or any of their early works) for that matter. I'll just call it Tomorrow's Harvest and hope they don't repeat the same trick 20 years down the road when they put out their next record.
Yes you're right, I don't mean it's really MHTRTC 2, but MHTRTC is the BOC's album who sound the nearest to what I've heard tonight, i'm talking about the production. The full album will maybe, certainly, change my mind, it's just a silly and quick review of my first feeling about the new sounds we've heard.
And MHTRTC 2 can be a good thing, but I really didn't appreciate the synth sounds and the melodies, specially about track 4.
I am not a bad guy twoismers ! Don't kill me , PLEASE !
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sleepysilverdoor wrote:Comparing it to Music Has the Right to Children really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. It's far more brooding and moody than MHTRTC (or any of their early works) for that matter. I'll just call it Tomorrow's Harvest and hope they don't repeat the same trick 20 years down the road when they put out their next record.
Yes you're right, I don't mean it's really MHTRTC 2, but MHTRTC is the BOC's album who sound the nearest to what I've heard tonight, i'm talking about the production. The full album will maybe, certainly, change my mind, it's just a silly and quick review of my first feeling about the new sounds we've heard.
And MHTRTC 2 can be a good thing, but I really didn't appreciate the synth sounds and the melodies, specially about track 4.
Am not a bad guy twoismers ! Don't kill me , PLEASE !
Haha, I'm not mad, just disagree. Anyway, track 4 sounded a little MHTRTC-ish near the beginning, but it was mostly an issue of the synth sounds. I mostly just though of it as sounding like BoC rather than any particular album.
I'm definitely hearing something that can be more easily compared to MHTRTC than any of their other work after. I wouldn't say it's a rehash or anything though. I really didn't expect them to ever make anything like that again, but I have to admit I'm pretty pleased. I love MHTRTC.
So far though this album seems to have it's own particular sound. It's just not one I'm familiar enough with yet to concretely say "oh yeah, that's the ol' TH sound"
All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
I too am getting a MHTRTC vibe - that's based on one listen of Gemini and White Cyclosa, several of Reach for the Dead, none of Cold Earth or anything else. The material is very different from MHTRTC, but maybe something from the songwriting perspective is similar, I can't put my finger on it but I love it. Something about it really brings me back to that '95-'98 sound. It's promising to me that Cold Earth has been compared to some of their live music. I have always felt that somehow those post-MHTRTC live songs shared more of a kinship with the MHTRTC sound than the Geogaddi one. It was almost like at some point between albums, they tore it up and started over again and we got Geogaddi (which I still love and is probably a good thing - don't be a one trick pony so early in your career)
As much as I love everything after that, it's almost as if the material had no room to breathe, it was so constantly dense. Now it seems like they have embraced their past and they are letting at least some passages not be as overwritten/overproduced. I could see how someone who got into BoC with TCH, or TCH was their favorite album, could be turned off by the sometimes more stark sound here.
It's almost like they pulled a reverse Daft Punk - so many people think RAM's "overproduction" (I still like that too) was a reaction to the minimalism of Human After All. Maybe TH is BoC's way of taking some of the criticism that TCH's production received.
What we've heard so far really feels like a combination of their various era and sounds...the minimalism of Old Tunes, that "something" of MHTRTC, the darkness of Geogaddi, the lush production of TCH. Not all at once, but sometimes those aspects reveal themselves at different points of the same song.
Personally, I love the direction of TH so far, and will not be listening to any more of it until I have the full album...this is what BoC means to me. I hope that this amalgamation of their sounds (from what I've heard so far, and what I've heard described) is not intended as their swan song of new output. I know they're obligated for one more album release from Warp after this, but I'm sure the BoC-set would fulfill that for them if it had to.
what i,ve heard so far comes across to me as a mixture of the live stuff and trans canada highway,at times gritty and claustrophobic and also intricate and epic
The songs i'm reminded of most are M9 and Chinook. The same synth arpeggios from M9 are being used on Reach for the Dead, and Jacquard Causeway. The new songs have the same kind of foreboding drone and thickness too. The feel is very similar. Anyway I think were looking at a sound that's closer to their early unreleased material and BoC Maxima, than to MHTRTC.
White Cyclosa is very like Carpenters Seasons of the Witch stuff, his best Halloween one imo. interesting that film relies on tv jingles sending out evil signals as well and of course Geogaddi samples the other Seasons of the Witch film from 70s
thepastinsidepressant wrote:White Cyclosa is very like Carpenters Seasons of the Witch stuff, his best Halloween one imo. interesting that film relies on tv jingles sending out evil signals as well and of course Geogaddi samples the other Seasons of the Witch film from 70s
Don't forget Phaedra as well, that is clearly coming out in the new stuff
thepastinsidepressant wrote:White Cyclosa is very like Carpenters Seasons of the Witch stuff, his best Halloween one imo. interesting that film relies on tv jingles sending out evil signals as well and of course Geogaddi samples the other Seasons of the Witch film from 70s
Don't forget Phaedra as well, that is clearly coming out in the new stuff
Yes.
I couldn't quite put my finger on the overall vibe I was getting from White Cyclosa but it has a huge Phaedra vibe about it. Which, of course, is no bad thing.
The day the actual album comes out i'll be travelling to a Holiday/water park with my family so I guess I'll have the opposite experience as the some of you at the abandoned waterpark. I wonder if i'll have flashes of post apocalyptic Butlins?
Just realized that my planned day off for hike + TH marathon has appeared in the 10 day weather forecast. 78F and 20% chance of rain! Of course it will change by then (hopefully by the better) but just seeing the date makes it seem really close. It's starting to feel very real...just need that shipping notification now!
I'm weak, I listened to those samples from yesterday once. And I really don't get all the hate for them, yes the album is gonna be different, and that's such a relief! They won't release the same album over & over again. Plus, the sound quality was shit, I could feel the bass without actually hearing it, so there's way more to hear! Can't fait for the album to be released
Ottomatik wrote:I am really wondering if, for my first listen, I should be stoned or stay sober…
ooh i would wait until you get to know it better. if it sounded like Campfire i would say sure relax and float downstream, but this is a different beast.
