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Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:43 pm
by Orbited insanitarium
Navaru wrote:(whoever shared Olias of Sunhillow with me here thank you, it’s incredible and I listen to it at least once a week)
Blimey, that was quite a few months ago but I'm pleased you're still listening to it! Definitely my favorite 70's space psychedelia album. Jon Anderson is a genius.

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:19 pm
by bizcastl
It's so annoying right after bigger news like the Fredd-E like...

It's such a spike in activity/hype and then... back to waiting. This repeating cycle must end soon, right? RIGHT?

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They're toying with our hype levels to make a saw wave to sample for the next LP.


I know many have said it many times before but it does actually feel like we're nearing the end. I'm still banking on this year!

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Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:39 pm
by Sky and Trails
I agree!

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:05 pm
by Magrathea
Geogandhi wrote:Honestly, a space theme could/would be really disappointing. How do you project an aural image of space? You do vast open minimal ambience... because fuck all is happening up there, just slow moving massiveness. Kinda boring to listen to.
If you only care to listen to the untransformed sound of ambient cosmos, sure it is boring there is barely any medium to carry a soundwave however if you look at the whole spectrum of electromagnetic radiation whoa have you got a chaotic symphony. It is all just a matter of perspectives, the planets, stars, pulsars, supernovae, even the cosmos itself still reverberates from the Big Bang so... yes there is actually plenty of Wagnerian qualities to it ;)

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:13 pm
by Helios
Also, no need to take space so literally. When I think of space, I think of an incredibly dramatic journey - not silence and minimalism.

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:18 pm
by Negamuse
Space is mostly empty and still and that's not very BoC. But transmitting signals into that emptiness waiting for a reply that will never come, putting human's achievements on a gold vinyl printed with instructions on how to play it that may never be understood, the expansion of the universe making it increasingly unlikely we will ever be anything other than cosmically alone, standing around as children with upturned faces of wonder watching a shuttle explode, a race to make the dreams of off-earth habitats come true grinding to a halt because we can't sort our collective shit out... These are the kind of complicated and contradictory feelings that seem *very* BoC.

And this is just assuming it *is* going to be about space. It could be about anything, it would still have something to say. It's rarely ever the subject matter that matters with them, it's the pictures it lets them paint and the textures with which they paint them.

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:26 pm
by Sky and Trails
I don't think any album from BOC will be about space.
I should say 'about' space, or in any way related to space.
The reason is because space itself is too much to cover with an album.

I definitely agree with a lot of people who have had various ideas within the realm of space, which the album could be about.

I personally feel that the Pioneer Plaque and other various space-related stuff had nothing to do with anything other than they chose a badass image and placed a turquoise hexagon in it.

That was a total, "Holy shit! This looks awesome!" moment for BOC or whoever does their graphic design work.


I think a more likely candidate for the subject of a new album, assuming it is 'about' something, would be, um, a Western.
Here me out...a Western, like cowboys and stuff, set in the American Southwest, it would be a 'road trip' album for a person on a horse, slowly trotting through the barren desert that was left after whatever happened in Tomorrow's Harvest.

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:38 pm
by Echelon
I think TH wasn't about the apocalypse. It was about all of the feelings associated with it. The conspiracy, sickness, survival and the fatality. The best part is that the feelings are translated into the IDM sound. That's how I feel the 'space' album will sound.

Rejoice though my friends. Only nine more days...supposedly.

On a side note: I honestly hope we will return to a more prosperous era for BOC. Much like Aphex last decade. Demos post about a more productive 2020s makes me want that more than anything.

I get a feeling that BOC is merely a hobby for them, but I hope one day they'll be back in the saddle and return to being the Dayvan Cowboys they once were.

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:19 pm
by Sky and Trails
I agree with you on TH.
I feel like in the world of Tomorrow's Harvest, the apocalypse had already happened.

Anything that sounded pre-apocalypse was simply a memory of how things 'used' to be.

Maybe Palace Posy was a mischievous and maniacal reminiscence of the apocalyptic event that took place. Like children singing songs and playing games that were actually based on horrible events of war, etc.

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:36 pm
by hexagonFox
9 more days

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:03 pm
by SamuraiDrifter
I think Tomorrow's Harvest was about a massive global collapse that many people, not just the Sandisons, see in our near future. I read a number of the books they recommended in the 2013 Guardian interview that discussed the factors involved and I feel like it helped me understand where they were coming from.

I think by "it's not about the apocalypse" all they meant was that it's not about "the end." Collapse is a natural part of history. Every empire falls, but therein lies new beginnings. I think the song titles referencing "seeds" point to that idea of new things growing from the rubble, as does the part in the Reach For The Dead video showing flowers waving in the breeze, interspersed with shots of ruins. Even the title refers to the cycle of planting and harvesting.

I think whatever theme they go for will be well thought out and executed, Ican't see myself being disappointed in a subject matter if the music is good.

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:30 pm
by Helios
hexagonFox wrote:9 more days
Until?

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:37 pm
by Fredd-E
Helios wrote:
hexagonFox wrote:9 more days
Until?

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:30 pm
by Brendan Standing Alone
Fredd-E wrote:
Helios wrote:
hexagonFox wrote:9 more days
Until?
Look forward to this article. Also excited for RDS tomorrow for potential new releases from other artists like Aphex Twin.

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:48 pm
by Peacock Tail
What if the "822" in the TH album art was them telling us the next album release date?

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:50 pm
by Brendan Standing Alone
SamuraiDrifter wrote:I think Tomorrow's Harvest was about a massive global collapse that many people, not just the Sandisons, see in our near future. I read a number of the books they recommended in the 2013 Guardian interview that discussed the factors involved and I feel like it helped me understand where they were coming from.

I think by "it's not about the apocalypse" all they meant was that it's not about "the end." Collapse is a natural part of history. Every empire falls, but therein lies new beginnings. I think the song titles referencing "seeds" point to that idea of new things growing from the rubble, as does the part in the Reach For The Dead video showing flowers waving in the breeze, interspersed with shots of ruins. Even the title refers to the cycle of planting and harvesting.

I think whatever theme they go for will be well thought out and executed, Ican't see myself being disappointed in a subject matter if the music is good.
Prior to TH, there was discussion here and about the new release possibly being based a post-apocalyptic or nuclear theme, mostly based on the nuclear explosion imagery from their website banner (or was it on their Warp or maybe Bleep page at the time?). Since there was also speculation and rumor of a double album, I speculated that the 1st LP would be based on nuclear destruction of mankind (yermo), while the 2nd LP would be based on a rebirth or re-kindled hope for mankind (consecha). Not ruling this out, but would kind of cool to have the next album be the direct counter or answer to TH, to compete the “consecha”rebirth or re-awakening cycle.

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:33 pm
by arvy
Peacock Tail wrote:What if the "822" in the TH album art was them telling us the next album release date?
822 is a legit number

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Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:36 pm
by bizcastl
arvy wrote:
Peacock Tail wrote:What if the "822" in the TH album art was them telling us the next album release date?
822 is a legit number

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2(:)57 is TH's CAT #

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:04 pm
by arvy
Biznasty wrote:
arvy wrote:
Peacock Tail wrote:What if the "822" in the TH album art was them telling us the next album release date?
822 is a legit number

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2(:)57 is TH's CAT #
right. initially the speculation was that 822 should be the date for TH ep.

Re: GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:20 pm
by Orbited insanitarium
Peacock Tail wrote:What if the "822" in the TH album art was them telling us the next album release date?
They gave us so much fitting artwork for TH. :]
Also for reference, the "822" one in particular had it's source image found way back in 2018.
Hexamerous wrote:
Valotonin wrote:Holy shit, your ability to find these is unique.

Any luck on the Helicopter pics? I will start looking into documentaries involving that particular model as the theory suggested earlier that it was a screenshot from a motion picture as opposed to a still image is looking quite likely given the circumstances.
Thanks! I haven't investigated them yet. Good luck!


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The whole thread actually is a really fascinating read!
Deconstructing The Artwork of Tomorrows Harvest