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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:01 pm
by Jonse
GeogEddie wrote:
Rodheh wrote:
GeogEddie wrote:That is the very definition of being a downer. I'd much prefer to see them go out on a high note. TH is a solid album but it ranks below every single other release they've done as far as I'm concerned.
Were you at the listening party?

From the material I've heard so far I have a hard time believing this won't be at the very least better than The Campfire Headphase.
No, but I did listen to the leak that guy put up on Youtube. I know that's different from hearing the final version in full quality, but I can't imagine the experience will be so different that it would bump the album above BoC's other works, all of which I hold in very high regard (even the vastly under-appreciated TCH).
Well I guess to each their own. You actually just gave me more confidence in the album by stating that you thought TCH was under-appreciated...now I know it likely sounds nothing like that.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:02 pm
by StarblazerUK
They haven't gigged their previous releases, I doubt that this will be any different. Gutted as I am, maybe they just ain't comfortable playing live? Who knows, all speculation.
I would love to get the chance to see them after the few missed opportunities many moons ago.....time will tell.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:04 pm
by Jonse
StarblazerUK wrote:They haven't gigged their previous releases, I doubt that this will be any different. Gutted as I am, maybe they just ain't comfortable playing live? Who knows, all speculation.
I would love to get the chance to see them after the few missed opportunities many moons ago.....time will tell.
It's always just seemed to me like this music isn't the kind you play live. Most of it is comprised of samples that are arranged and so pretty much the live aspect would come down to them playing a few hardware samplers/synths and maybe a flute or two.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:04 pm
by thinkdontpray
Kindly ignore Debbie downer over there, it's obvious he has a bunch of sand in that vagina of his. He hasn't posted a positive thing yet so either he's trying to be a troll which I doubt because he's not very good at it or he's one of these people who is so miserable with their own life that in order to get some semblance of joy they try and squeeze it out of those around them.

As for BoC playing live I think it's very possible, a tour however not so much. It would be something though if they played a special one off gig, pulling stuff from all over their catalog maybe even unheard/unreleased stuff and recorded the show for a blu-ray/cd release. A live retrospective if you will.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:05 pm
by Jonse
thinkdontpray wrote:Kindly ignore Debbie downer over there, it's obvious he has a bunch of sand in that vagina of his. He hasn't posted a positive thing yet so either he's trying to be a troll which I doubt because he's not very good at it or he's one of these people who is so miserable with their own life that in order to get some semblance of joy they try and squeeze it out of those around them.
Well now, there's no reason to be rude here. It's just an opinion.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:06 pm
by GeogEddie
Rodheh wrote:
GeogEddie wrote:
Rodheh wrote: Were you at the listening party?

From the material I've heard so far I have a hard time believing this won't be at the very least better than The Campfire Headphase.
No, but I did listen to the leak that guy put up on Youtube. I know that's different from hearing the final version in full quality, but I can't imagine the experience will be so different that it would bump the album above BoC's other works, all of which I hold in very high regard (even the vastly under-appreciated TCH).
Well I guess to each their own. You actually just gave me more confidence in the album by stating that you thought TCH was under-appreciated...now I know it likely sounds nothing like that.
I can safely say TH has almost nothing in common with TCH. I think it's a shame that they've backed off from acoustic guitars so much. The people comparing TH to Vangelis and John Carpenter are pretty much right on the money. Old-school synth from the 70's and 80's is the obvious influence.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:08 pm
by Jonse
GeogEddie wrote:
Rodheh wrote:
GeogEddie wrote: No, but I did listen to the leak that guy put up on Youtube. I know that's different from hearing the final version in full quality, but I can't imagine the experience will be so different that it would bump the album above BoC's other works, all of which I hold in very high regard (even the vastly under-appreciated TCH).
Well I guess to each their own. You actually just gave me more confidence in the album by stating that you thought TCH was under-appreciated...now I know it likely sounds nothing like that.
I can safely say TH has almost nothing in common with TCH. I think it's a shame that they've backed off from acoustic guitars so much. The people comparing TH to Vangelis and John Carpenter are pretty much right on the money. Old-school synth from the 70's and 80's is the obvious influence.
I never had a problem with the guitars, however I did think they overdid them a little bit. It would be nice if in the future they use everything they've used before but in good moderation.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:09 pm
by GeogEddie
thinkdontpray wrote:Kindly ignore Debbie downer over there, it's obvious he has a bunch of sand in that vagina of his. He hasn't posted a positive thing yet so either he's trying to be a troll which I doubt because he's not very good at it or he's one of these people who is so miserable with their own life that in order to get some semblance of joy they try and squeeze it out of those around them.

As for BoC playing live I think it's very possible, a tour however not so much. It would be something though if they played a special one off gig, pulling stuff from all over their catalog maybe even unheard/unreleased stuff and recorded the show for a blu-ray/cd release. A live retrospective if you will.
Twoism: where calling an album solid but not worshiping it as the greatest piece of music ever recorded in the history of human civilization means you are a downer with a sandy vagina. This place is almost unreal. You'd need to visit a Tool or Radiohead forum to find this level of hero worship and blind fanboyism.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:13 pm
by jakestott
Did anyone go to the ATP gig in 2001? Could i kindly eat your brains, so i can taste what the memories of hearing 'Echus' in person was like? It must have been INCREDIBLE.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:18 pm
by Negamuse
You know what, if they gigged at all, anywhere in the world I'd be there in a heartbeat. Don't think it's ever gonna happen but still.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:52 pm
by Monkeyesq
Rodheh wrote:
StarblazerUK wrote:They haven't gigged their previous releases, I doubt that this will be any different. Gutted as I am, maybe they just ain't comfortable playing live? Who knows, all speculation.
I would love to get the chance to see them after the few missed opportunities many moons ago.....time will tell.
It's always just seemed to me like this music isn't the kind you play live. Most of it is comprised of samples that are arranged and so pretty much the live aspect would come down to them playing a few hardware samplers/synths and maybe a flute or two.
Thats no different to any other electronic music though, Orbital just push buttons at the end of the day. I know it's more ambient but even stars of the lid tour and play live.

What Amon Tobin has been doing live recently raises the bar tbh, I just struggle to understand why they wouldn't want to sit in a box pushing buttons, looking a bit like but with different music and visuals. What fan wouldn't want to see that?

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 11:57 pm
by zeoevil
Monkeyesq wrote:Orbital just push buttons...
What is this? I don't even.

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 11:59 pm
by salamander
Monkeyesq wrote: Orbital just push buttons at the end of the day.
smdh

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:06 am
by euue
ray charles and stevie wonder? oh they just push keys

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:11 am
by Spirit Fingers
Monkeyesq wrote: even stars of the lid tour and play live.
SOTL are an incredible live band. strings, full-wall projections. their december gig was one of the most amazing things i've ever seen.

But yeah, aside from visuals I don't see a whole lot BoC could do with a live set. I'd still go in a heartbeat, if only for the chance of unheard material as someone said earlier, but the majority of electronic stuff I've seen live has felt a bit flat (except FlyLo, which was mindblowing).

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:18 am
by Impossible Geometry
GeogEddie wrote:That is the very definition of being a downer. I'd much prefer to see them go out on a high note. TH is a solid album but it ranks below every single other release they've done as far as I'm concerned.
oh my god man enough already. negative negative negative negative negative negative negative negative negative negative. constantly. who signs up on a message board just to troll? album isnt even out yet officially either. its ok that you dont like it, its all subjective, but why taint the minds of the others in the community who havent heard it? why make them already predisposed and inclined to not like it? so silly. knock it off.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:20 am
by Impossible Geometry
GeogEddie wrote:
thinkdontpray wrote:Kindly ignore Debbie downer over there, it's obvious he has a bunch of sand in that vagina of his. He hasn't posted a positive thing yet so either he's trying to be a troll which I doubt because he's not very good at it or he's one of these people who is so miserable with their own life that in order to get some semblance of joy they try and squeeze it out of those around them.

As for BoC playing live I think it's very possible, a tour however not so much. It would be something though if they played a special one off gig, pulling stuff from all over their catalog maybe even unheard/unreleased stuff and recorded the show for a blu-ray/cd release. A live retrospective if you will.
Twoism: where calling an album solid but not worshiping it as the greatest piece of music ever recorded in the history of human civilization means you are a downer with a sandy vagina. This place is almost unreal. You'd need to visit a Tool or Radiohead forum to find this level of hero worship and blind fanboyism.
no man, you're just being a dick.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:30 am
by Opothecary
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:49 am
by Jonse
GeogEddie wrote:
thinkdontpray wrote:Kindly ignore Debbie downer over there, it's obvious he has a bunch of sand in that vagina of his. He hasn't posted a positive thing yet so either he's trying to be a troll which I doubt because he's not very good at it or he's one of these people who is so miserable with their own life that in order to get some semblance of joy they try and squeeze it out of those around them.

As for BoC playing live I think it's very possible, a tour however not so much. It would be something though if they played a special one off gig, pulling stuff from all over their catalog maybe even unheard/unreleased stuff and recorded the show for a blu-ray/cd release. A live retrospective if you will.
Twoism: where calling an album solid but not worshiping it as the greatest piece of music ever recorded in the history of human civilization means you are a downer with a sandy vagina. This place is almost unreal. You'd need to visit a Tool or Radiohead forum to find this level of hero worship and blind fanboyism.
No, that's not what this forum is like at all normally and that either a new member or non-regular unfortunately acting immature. Most of the time we do not have this sort of behavior.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:51 am
by Jonse
Monkeyesq wrote:
Rodheh wrote:
StarblazerUK wrote:They haven't gigged their previous releases, I doubt that this will be any different. Gutted as I am, maybe they just ain't comfortable playing live? Who knows, all speculation.
I would love to get the chance to see them after the few missed opportunities many moons ago.....time will tell.
It's always just seemed to me like this music isn't the kind you play live. Most of it is comprised of samples that are arranged and so pretty much the live aspect would come down to them playing a few hardware samplers/synths and maybe a flute or two.
Thats no different to any other electronic music though
Well yeah I mean there are differences, a lot of artists DJ/scratch, work a variety of different electronics, some sing, and for a good amount of them there's an art that goes into stringing together and combining songs from their discography. I've heard Boards live, they just really play their songs straight and past running the keys and the samplers a lot is barely comprised of live elements. I can't see them doing a lot more than what it is they do already. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see them live, I just mean that might be one of the reasons they don't perform live.