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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:23 am
by kaini
iirc, what's used on this track is a slightly off harmony in fifths... which is based on the golden ratio or the fibonacci ratio (which are very close numerically, but not the same thing). in other words, the harmonies within the pad are very slightly out of tune... which adds to the queasy feel within the track

at least that was the theory, the group couldn't come to a consensus about it...

i'll add this to the wiki soon

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:21 am
by plaster
steve-o wrote:I'm not checking interviews, sorry, but I thought that they built a beat with the Fibonacci Sequence (Golden Ratio).

i had a sample of that sequence somewhere on my hd. lemme try to find it.


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the fibonacci sequence.aiff
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:28 am
by plaster
kaini wrote:iirc, what's used on this track is a slightly off harmony in fifths... which is based on the golden ratio or the fibonacci ratio (which are very close numerically, but not the same thing). in other words, the harmonies within the pad are very slightly out of tune... which adds to the queasy feel within the track

at least that was the theory, the group couldn't come to a consensus about it...

i'll add this to the wiki soon


which moog is that?
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:07 pm
by Moebius
My bad, I thought the OP was saying the name of the sound referred to an equation.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:06 pm
by kaini
plaster wrote:
kaini wrote:iirc, what's used on this track is a slightly off harmony in fifths... which is based on the golden ratio or the fibonacci ratio (which are very close numerically, but not the same thing). in other words, the harmonies within the pad are very slightly out of tune... which adds to the queasy feel within the track

at least that was the theory, the group couldn't come to a consensus about it...

i'll add this to the wiki soon


which moog is that?
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:13 pm
by plaster
that is a moog or isn't? i thought i see a moog logo on the upper right side.
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:19 pm
by kaini
yeah, it's a moog, as is the musonics one. might not be the exact same model, but it's the same panel.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:30 pm
by wwbjd

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:19 pm
by kaini
aha

i was close

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:49 pm
by plaster
do you think they use it for melodies?
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:06 am
by kaini
no, i just like moogs

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:20 am
by plaster
why the hell did you post that image a few times now?
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:48 am
by wwbjd
That's part of his sig :)

That fiboncacci aiff is interesting.. where/how was it generated?

When slowed WAAAAAAAAY down it begins to sort of remind me of the dragged out "ropey / airplane sputtering out" bits in "Diving Station", but I'm pretty certain that's just something going through a ring modulator with no mysterious formula behind it.

I can see that each sound is hitting on a fairly rigid beat.. and it's breaking up, but what's it got to do with 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21 etc?

Listening to "Devil" again.. if there's anything that's supposed to be apparent in there, it's got to be in the hollow-ish main line.

Hell, there could just be musical representations of mathematical formulas all over the place, but it would just be too difficult to spot unless it was known how it was used.