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Re: Antinatalism
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:02 pm
by Jonse
I don't want to use the word "suffering" anymore in this context. It's definitely not right to project it on others.
Some people don't seem to understand the point or intention behind using that kind of terminology
Re: Antinatalism
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:36 pm
by Gazebo4
Jonse wrote:I don't want to use the word "suffering" anymore in this context. It's definitely not right to project it on others.
Some people don't seem to understand the point or intention behind using that kind of terminology
Would you care to explain that?
Re: Antinatalism
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:54 pm
by pharmaceutical armour
I'm both a committed antinatalist and utilitarian. Antinatalist underpins the rubric of negative utilitarianism. David Benatar's Better Never to Have Been which I've actually read is the most elegant explication of antinatalist.
Re: Antinatalism
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 7:43 pm
by pharmaceutical armour
Negamuse wrote:It can very quickly veer off into eugenics
Antinatalism has got nothing to do with eugenics, it's simply about desisting, voluntarily from procreation. Eugenics is the opposite. If anything antinatalism is symmetrical with dysgenics which I support because if more unfit humans are born this may eventually serve to retard the fecundity or fertility of our aggressive primate species. Population planning is discussed in the primary antinatalist manifesto but again there is nothing inherently eugenic about population planning. With eight billion human thugs on the planet limiting the luxuriant size of the global population is long overdue.
Re: Antinatalism
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 7:44 pm
by pharmaceutical armour
pharmaceutical armour wrote:I'm both a committed antinatalist and utilitarian. Antinatalism underpins the rubric of negative utilitarianism. David Benatar's Better Never to Have Been which I've actually read is the most elegant explication of antinatalism.
Re: Antinatalism
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:38 pm
by rodox_head
pharmaceutical armour wrote:pharmaceutical armour wrote:I'm both a committed antinatalist and utilitarian. Antinatalism underpins the rubric of negative utilitarianism. David Benatar's Better Never to Have Been which I've actually read is the most elegant explication of antinatalism.
We heard you the first time.