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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:06 am
by celadon
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:33 am
by hills west
am i the only one who doesnt really care about this...even though i lost 20 bucks as well?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:40 am
by kyriakos
youre just passive then
im passive as well but i hate people who take advantage
pisses me right the fuck off
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:41 am
by nny
hills west wrote:am i the only one who doesnt really care about this...even though i lost 20 bucks as well?
I lost 80. And I contributed two tracks on the compilation. How do you think I feel about wasting time, money and effort into this?
kyriakos wrote:i say we track his ip address down and call the police
Admins: is it possible to lock
this topic just to make sure it documents what happened in case we have to take further actions about this?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:49 am
by nny
Derail wrote:He's still active on last.fm and myspace so he can't be too depressed.

Maybe that counts as "everyday/routine business before checking into institution" but apparently dealing with something that you started and involving 30 persons and nearly 640eur does not!
He also seemed to have time to delete me from his friend list on last.fm. How convenient...
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:10 am
by polar sky
The Dog's on it...

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:38 am
by thedisavowed
nny wrote:Derail wrote:He's still active on last.fm and myspace so he can't be too depressed.

Maybe that counts as "everyday/routine business before checking into institution" but apparently dealing with something that you started and involving 30 persons and nearly 640eur does not!
He also seemed to have time to delete me from his friend list on last.fm. How convenient...
Hmm... it appears I have been deleted as well. This is very, very shady.
I'm still waiting to hear from WWBJD, as I think he lost the most financially on this deal. I hope he doesn't leave permanently because of this.
NNY, I don't know how it is in Europe, but without a legal contract and with the sum of money (even though it's 80 bucks, and I know exactly how that feels) being so small, the amount of time and money and grief it would take to bust D4 over this is just not worth your while.
What saddens me is that I really feel like the community had something special going on, even though I lacked the talent to personally contribute. I've been a big supporter of the artists on this board, and I just think that whatever exchanges took place that this is unfair (almost entirely) to the artists. Life will go on for me if I'm shorted 20 bucks.
Hell, I'd be willing to look into local pressing options here if the money ever gets recovered. I'm just sad that the disc won't see the light of day more than anything else.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:39 am
by isawdrones
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:16 am
by nny
thedisavowed wrote:
I'm still waiting to hear from WWBJD, as I think he lost the most financially on this deal. I hope he doesn't leave permanently because of this.
According to
this, I might be the one who lost the most, aside from giving out my music in good will.
This is just way out of line and very disrespectful not only for me but to everybody involved.
Possibly something that BOC would be ashamed of their fans.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:39 am
by harpoon dodger
This is really awful to hear..I didnt order a CD or anything but still. I hope everything works out for everybody.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:08 am
by thedisavowed
nny wrote:thedisavowed wrote:
I'm still waiting to hear from WWBJD, as I think he lost the most financially on this deal. I hope he doesn't leave permanently because of this.
According to
this, I might be the one who lost the most, aside from giving out my music in good will.
This is just way out of line and very disrespectful not only for me but to everybody involved.
Possibly something that BOC would be ashamed of their fans.
My bad. Sorry man. Don't you leave either.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:35 am
by nlogax
what is also bothering me a lot is that everything we've tried to do as a community so far hasn't been done. first the t-shirt, now this...i hope that at least we'll have a nice downloadable compilation along with Aesthetics' mix of it.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:14 am
by Techboy
Is this what a new artist thinks every time you download their music for free?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:05 pm
by boardsofdublin
fuck! why did i start this idea.
sorry guys, i lost out too.
hope he's ok, but i want my money back!
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:25 pm
by nny
boardsofdublin wrote:fuck! why did i start this idea.
sorry guys, i lost out too.
hope he's ok, but i want my money back!
The problem was not the idea of the compilation itself but the idea of a CD-R with no profit for anyone except for the Twoism forum, so he said...
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:40 pm
by psycho
Wow i've just read through all the emails in this thread.
Jesus that is terrible news for all the people who bought cdrs.Fingers crossed all the buyers get their money back.
Keith
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:41 pm
by Fredd-E
You can't possibly understand how mad I'm about this. I was one of the first to pay the €16. I've put my trust in this guy and now this scam?

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:23 am
by saturdayindex
damn, i am glad my payment never went through. i had ordered 2 copies. i do feel bad for him though. i know what depression is like, it's a whole other world to be depressed. but at the same time he should return everyone's money. heck. it would probably be easier for him to just finish this fucking project than to return us all our money...
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:40 am
by Chime Traveler
It's quite a shame that it came down to this. Lesson learned by me here: Never hand over your hard earned money to just anyone on the Internet. (Reputable & established businesses aside). Sorry to all who also shelled out their money, had their hopes up and were looking forward to this collectible DIY "honorary tribute" to two of the most talented musicians out there.
It's a great feeling to share, (or to be a part of a community of people sharing), something that they have a lot of passion for with other like-minded individuals. This is something which actually inspires people to want to create and do something tangible in an honorary fashion to the "thing or people or cause" that they're really passionate about...thus the One On Twoism compilation CD. The upsetting part of this is that it's such a letdown when in the end after sharing this passion or wanting to be a part of an end result and putting your money where your mouth is, (having a couple of extra dollars at the time), you're taken for a ride.
Still looking forward to eventually hearing all of the tracks that people put their heart and soul into...
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:43 am
by wwbjd
I haven't read anything here, but was informed of the situation from another member.
I had tried sending you PM's (Aesthetics) over the weekend, but looked like mail wasn't working.
Swamped, just literally swamped at work, with another big deadline looming.
I'll do what I can over the next few nights to get the page up and get the space going for the download.
*expletives directed at Exit deleted*
So, sorry to everyone who lost their money. And to me, who lost a grand total for 8 CD's. YAY!
Wish I could get hard copies made for everyone. Web page is first priority (and I think I know someone who could definitely help out), then we'll see about hard copies (free of charge of course). Hell, I did like fifty copies of another CDr over Christmas for free.. I'm sure something could happen..
I'll be in contact Aesthetics.
-B