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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:01 am
by Aesthetics
GloamLight wrote:For what it's worth:

LINK REMOVED

Please don't post copyrigthed material.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:10 am
by GloamLight
What if I just post copyrighted material?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:58 am
by novayshun
Who are you?


my name is brian

i am an aries

my hobbies include photography, dog walking and listening to great music.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:34 pm
by saob
OT: I like the attention every little topic gets on this forum.

:)

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:36 pm
by Aesthetics
GloamLight wrote:What if I just post copyrighted material?

Then I just ban you.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:55 pm
by dave_from_2001
(We will turn a blind eye to mixes, mash-ups, live material, radio shows, short clips and samples because those are a great way to discover new music.)


for next time so copyrighted material would be waived here

A mashup, bootleg or blend[1] (also mash up and mash-up) is a song or composition created by blending two or more songs, usually by overlaying the vocal track of one song seamlessly over the music track of another.[2]


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GAAHHH my nose is bleeding right before posing thIDS!!1! BLOOD E VEERYEWHERRE!!!! blood on KRYBRD!!!!
:idea:

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:02 pm
by Guido
Aesthetics wrote:
GloamLight wrote:What if I just post copyrighted material?

Then I just ban you.


Offtopic but why is it that on nearly every public forum the rules are that you can post links to complete albums in high quality on youtube but you aren't allowed to post mp3's no matter how obscure the artist is?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:16 pm
by dave_from_2001
Guido wrote:
Aesthetics wrote:
GloamLight wrote:What if I just post copyrighted material?

Then I just ban you.


Offtopic but why is it that on nearly every public forum the rules are that you can post links to complete albums in high quality on youtube but you aren't allowed to post mp3's no matter how obscure the artist is?


there should be a rule about material copyright etc, but employing unequal action just because of some "your doing it wrong" internet pack meme attitude is debatabbal with potential lameness. IN MY OPINION.

i'm working on contacting the Beatles by email to get permission to post a youtube file of magical mystery tour song. wish me luck!

god all mighty blood was firing out of my nose there. WOW. it was like spraying. now I have to careful with my sniffles or else it will fire up again with ease.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:30 pm
by Mexicola
It's this thread..... it's....sapping... the life outta me.
Slowly.....losing.......the will to live........

Seriously, I'm a music snob with the best of em but some of the posts here are pretty mean-spirited and out of proportion, imo.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:32 pm
by Aesthetics
dave_from_2001 wrote:
(We will turn a blind eye to mixes, mash-ups, live material, radio shows, short clips and samples because those are a great way to discover new music.)


for next time so copyrighted material would be waived here

A mashup, bootleg or blend[1] (also mash up and mash-up) is a song or composition created by blending two or more songs, usually by overlaying the vocal track of one song seamlessly over the music track of another.[2]

The rules are pretty clear.
GloamLight posted a link to a song by Ruby Suns which was the original song (unmixed).

Guido wrote:Offtopic but why is it that on nearly every public forum the rules are that you can post links to complete albums in high quality on youtube but you aren't allowed to post mp3's no matter how obscure the artist is?

I don't know. Perhaps because Youtube is responsible for its content and is willing to take the risk.
The copyright rules of this board are displayed in the user agreement and in the sticky topic. Please respect them.

Now please don't this topic turn into a copyright debate and stay on topic.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:45 pm
by dave_from_2001
Keep up the good work Gloamer. I recc making your own track next time tho and posting in the playground or the music forum.

Don't get upset about these curt reactions. I'm amazed how quickly people will fling decorum out of the window online. Something about not being seen I think. Its alot worse now.. Used to be civil before everyone thought they were Ed Witten because they edit wikipedia entries all day long instead of spending time with their family.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:16 pm
by 23degreesdream
novayshun wrote:obviously people who make mash-ups like this have no respect for the source material. why else would somebody take a great song and ruin it, or are they deluded enough to think that in some way that they are making it even better?

imo people who make these mash-ups are even lower down than the soundalike clones, at least they try and make a new track (albeit sounding like the artist they are copying).

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With all due respect this sounds like a sweeping generalisation to me - I'm sure alot of credible artists cut their teeth reworking existing material and I can't see anything deluded or disrespectful about that.

Obviously alot of mash-ups out ther are a bit shit - but everyone has to start out somewhere - it's how you get good, right? Though i wouldn't call them straight out 'mash-ups', BoC did a fair bit of messing about with other tracks (Trapped, midas touch, Prancealot, the way you show) in their early days.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:37 pm
by zeitgeist
*backs out of thread slowly, deletes browsing history*

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:13 am
by novayshun
23degreesdream wrote:
novayshun wrote:obviously people who make mash-ups like this have no respect for the source material. why else would somebody take a great song and ruin it, or are they deluded enough to think that in some way that they are making it even better?

imo people who make these mash-ups are even lower down than the soundalike clones, at least they try and make a new track (albeit sounding like the artist they are copying).

[/rant]


With all due respect this sounds like a sweeping generalisation to me - I'm sure alot of credible artists cut their teeth reworking existing material and I can't see anything deluded or disrespectful about that.

Obviously alot of mash-ups out ther are a bit shit - but everyone has to start out somewhere - it's how you get good, right? Though i wouldn't call them straight out 'mash-ups', BoC did a fair bit of messing about with other tracks (Trapped, midas touch, Prancealot, the way you show) in their early days.


i might as well draw smiley faces on my copy of MHTRTC and hang it in the tate gallery

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:17 am
by GloamLight
Aesthetics wrote:
GloamLight wrote:What if I just post copyrighted material?

Then I just ban you.



The humor was in how you spelled "copyrighted" in the previous post.

Ehehehehe?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:56 am
by Aesthetics
GloamLight wrote:The humor was in how you spelled "copyrighted" in the previous post.

Ehehehehe?
Lol, didn't notice the humor. :)

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:31 pm
by dave_from_2001
novayshun wrote:
23degreesdream wrote:
novayshun wrote:obviously people who make mash-ups like this have no respect for the source material. why else would somebody take a great song and ruin it, or are they deluded enough to think that in some way that they are making it even better?

imo people who make these mash-ups are even lower down than the soundalike clones, at least they try and make a new track (albeit sounding like the artist they are copying).

[/rant]


With all due respect this sounds like a sweeping generalisation to me - I'm sure alot of credible artists cut their teeth reworking existing material and I can't see anything deluded or disrespectful about that.

Obviously alot of mash-ups out ther are a bit shit - but everyone has to start out somewhere - it's how you get good, right? Though i wouldn't call them straight out 'mash-ups', BoC did a fair bit of messing about with other tracks (Trapped, midas touch, Prancealot, the way you show) in their early days.


i might as well draw smiley faces on my copy of MHTRTC and hang it in the tate gallery


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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:19 pm
by 23degreesdream
novayshun wrote:i might as well draw smiley faces on my copy of MHTRTC and hang it in the tate gallery



I'd have gone with a comedy tache/glasses combo, but each to their own :wink: seriously, i don't regard any album so sacred it can't be touched, even one as seminal as MHTRTC...

BoC art in the tate? there's a thought..