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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:25 pm
by Mexicola
Very interesting take from The Pirate Bay tonight. Excellent point raised about the birth of Holywood, which anyone who watched Mark Cousins 'The Story of Film' series will recall.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:02 pm
by mechanismj
I wonder how many people fail to see the irony of fighting censorship by censoring yourself.

This guy sees it...

http://www.groundzeromedia.org/darkness ... e-protest/

Great article from The Pirate Bay, too.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:38 pm
by Jonse
mechanismj wrote:I wonder how many people fail to see the irony of fighting censorship by censoring yourself.

This guy sees it...

http://www.groundzeromedia.org/darkness ... e-protest/

Great article from The Pirate Bay, too.
I'm pretty sure the idea was to disrupt the services many "normal" people use to make sure they hear about Sopa and possibly want to do something about it.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:09 am
by mechanismj
Rodheh wrote:
mechanismj wrote:I wonder how many people fail to see the irony of fighting censorship by censoring yourself.

This guy sees it...

http://www.groundzeromedia.org/darkness ... e-protest/

Great article from The Pirate Bay, too.
I'm pretty sure the idea was to disrupt the services many "normal" people use to make sure they hear about Sopa and possibly want to do something about it.
Well undoubtedly.

In lighter news...

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/18 ... ite-image/

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:07 am
by 747Music
mechanismj wrote:
Rodheh wrote:
mechanismj wrote:I wonder how many people fail to see the irony of fighting censorship by censoring yourself.

This guy sees it...

http://www.groundzeromedia.org/darkness ... e-protest/

Great article from The Pirate Bay, too.
I'm pretty sure the idea was to disrupt the services many "normal" people use to make sure they hear about Sopa and possibly want to do something about it.
Well undoubtedly.

In lighter news...

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/18 ... ite-image/

LOL. The picture he used is beautiful btw. I'd love an HD version.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:59 pm
by The Telepathic Kid
MEGAUPLOAD IS DOWN
REPEAT MEGAUPLOAD IS DOWN.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:41 am
by mechanismj

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:56 am
by fujee
Seeing as I am not really that well read on American politics, and the way congress works. What are the chances of this bill actually going through? and if so.. will alot of you US users cease to be able access hundreds of basically legitimate sites?

Also, how much influence do these blackouts actually have? Surely if Congress is in majority agreement it's basically going to happen?

American is trying so hard to be like China, the new mac daddy superpower.

Forgive me for my probably obvious questions, I just can't seem to find a straight forward answer :wink:

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:08 am
by Ender
fujee wrote:Seeing as I am not really that well read on American politics, and the way congress works. What are the chances of this bill actually going through? and if so.. will alot of you US users cease to be able access hundreds of basically legitimate sites?

Also, how much influence do these blackouts actually have? Surely if Congress is in majority agreement it's basically going to happen?

American is trying so hard to be like China, the new mac daddy superpower.

Forgive me for my probably obvious questions, I just can't seem to find a straight forward answer :wink:
The blackouts are just to get more people aware of SOPA/PIPA. The more people are aware of it and pissed off, the more people will complain to their congressman, and if enough people complain, the congressmen won't back it.

It was looking grim for a while, but now that attention on it has exploded, it's looking more likely that it won't pass. The far majority are against it now. It's kind of funny, there has been absolutely no coverage of it on the media at all. It's all just been via the internet.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:07 am
by jonnyjj74

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:31 am
by Waterbagel
while that's hilarious, fills me with warm feelings, and makes for a great opera

kinda scared mass media's gonna play this off as THIS IS WHY WE NEED SOPA/PIPA TO PROTECT AGAINST HACKERS TRYING TO TAKE DOWN THE CIA

if they even talk about sopa/pipa at all, that is..

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:58 am
by 747Music
Waterbagel wrote:
while that's hilarious, fills me with warm feelings, and makes for a great opera

kinda scared mass media's gonna play this off as THIS IS WHY WE NEED SOPA/PIPA TO PROTECT AGAINST HACKERS TRYING TO TAKE DOWN THE CIA

if they even talk about sopa/pipa at all, that is..
How would SOPA/PIPA protect against hackers? It only protects against piracy, not hackers.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:01 am
by Julian Candy
747Music wrote:
Waterbagel wrote:
while that's hilarious, fills me with warm feelings, and makes for a great opera

kinda scared mass media's gonna play this off as THIS IS WHY WE NEED SOPA/PIPA TO PROTECT AGAINST HACKERS TRYING TO TAKE DOWN THE CIA

if they even talk about sopa/pipa at all, that is..
How would SOPA/PIPA protect against hackers? It only protects against piracy, not hackers.
I'm sure all the old farts at congress don't know or understand that.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:04 am
by Waterbagel
Julian Candy wrote:
747Music wrote:
Waterbagel wrote: while that's hilarious, fills me with warm feelings, and makes for a great opera

kinda scared mass media's gonna play this off as THIS IS WHY WE NEED SOPA/PIPA TO PROTECT AGAINST HACKERS TRYING TO TAKE DOWN THE CIA

if they even talk about sopa/pipa at all, that is..
How would SOPA/PIPA protect against hackers? It only protects against piracy, not hackers.
I'm sure all the old farts at congress don't know or understand that.
and the old people at home that don't understand how the internet even works

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:05 am
by 2020k
They took down fbi.gov? omg.. :shock:

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:25 am
by Waterbagel
2020k wrote:They took down fbi.gov? omg.. :shock:
only for a bit. it, along with mpaa/riaa/emi/justice.gov/copyright sites are all back up.
DDoSing really doesn't do much. all the info (usually) is still there, and since these sites don't sell anything themselves, no loss in revenue.

symbolic, for the most part.

like someone on gizmodo pointed out, it's the e-equivalent of defecating on the doorstep of MPAA/RIAA/EMI headquarters.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:51 pm
by Waterbagel
i am told that SOPA/PIPA were really stopped by silicon valley pumping money into congress to keep them from passing the legislation fed from hollywood's money.

while it wouldn't surprise me AT ALL (good 'ole bought government), i don't have evidence just yet, but hope to soon.

anyone else find anything/hear anything? ACTA seems to be doing fairly well, too, unfortunately.