The Twoism Wasteland (and how to fix it)

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Waterbagel wrote:Now it seems that there are often people that join twoism with the main purpose of spreading their music in mind. They have not been around much; their name does not strike anyone as familiar. There's no already-existent personal bond between the artist and the community that draws the community to their art.


I think I know what you mean, but we must be careful to not become too much of an exclusive club - some of the newer members really contribute nice works. TaoTapeTao and Ustillhavefriends spring to mind.
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I still feel very new here but over the past years I been getting to know you guys and I like this place a lot. I think we are many members that read and listen to almost every post but not comment that often. For me it's not that I don't want to reply but more that I'm kind of shy and also I find it hard to express my self the way I want in english..I guess It takes more time for me to write a reply then the ones here having english as their native language.

Sometimes I feel that I don't really know which threads are okay to write and which isn’t..What topics deserves their own threads and which to be but in "The post what you are working on *right now* thread" or "This Random Thread" etc...And if there should maybe be a "Random music recommendations"? (Maybe there are one already..)

However..I would be glad to post more often if it's not annoying for anyone.
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Syberia wrote:However..I would be glad to post more often if it's not annoying for anyone.


Go for it!! :D
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I'm still here. Always am. I just don't have much to say. I have -nothing- to say about BoC. I have somewhat waning interest in the kinds of music that get produced by our members. Please, no offense intended. I still like it just fine, but it doesn't -grip- me like it did several years back.

These days I'm mostly thinking about gender, budgeting, and how to grow a career as a cartoonist beginning from deep within the furry fandom. This is not really the ideal place to discuss those things.
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turquoise70 wrote:I'm still here. Always am. I just don't have much to say. I have -nothing- to say about BoC. I have somewhat waning interest in the kinds of music that get produced by our members. Please, no offense intended. I still like it just fine, but it doesn't -grip- me like it did several years back.

These days I'm mostly thinking about gender, budgeting, and how to grow a career as a cartoonist beginning from deep within the furry fandom. This is not really the ideal place to discuss those things.


As our priorities change, so do our tastes... I can relate to this too. I'm also here a lot, I just don't post much. Sometimes even because another member has expressed a thought that I feel too very well and I feel like I don't need to add my voice. But I'm still here and dig this place and you guys!
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We're just a mellow, relaxed bunch of intelligent people who post when we can be bothered it sounds :lol:
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fujee wrote:We're just a mellow, relaxed bunch of intelligent people who post when we can be bothered it sounds :lol:


pretty much. i love you guys.
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I still lurk this forum, but I don't post much, mostly because I don't often have much to say. I've never really been a big forum person, and the fact that I have even 285 (well, 286 now I guess) posts is astounding for me, which says something about this place.

I don't usually have time to listen to the artists' works, but when I do I try to post, especially if I see that not many other people have posted and I really liked something.
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When I first joined the forum, Twoism seemed active in a lot of different aspects. The Post Your Art & Post Your Photography threads barely get any attention now, which saddens me, and the Boards of Canada Speculation topic seems to bring out the worst in each Twoism member.

There are a lot of really good topics if we dig and maybe bump them up with some new replies and material?

It's nice that we all agree that feedback on the Twoism artist pages aren't the best. I was speaking with a few members about this a while ago and I mentioned that it was interesting how I really do try to bring out a few Twoism artists to post on my blog each year, but, when I posted my EP in the Random Sound thread, there wasn't a whole lot of replies or even views to the topic. It actually made me a bit upset. But, I digress..we're all feeling the same way.

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It's difficult to discuss BoC when nearly everything has been discussed and their radio silence continues.

That said I still love making up BoC related puns and other such joys :lol:

The Playground and Random Sound are always good reads though, someone always has something awesome to contribute. I feel when people come here solely to promote their music and then don't become part of the community, that is a little annoying, but I guess they just want as many people to hear something as possible.

The irony of this thread is that it's surfaced a few rare posters and lurkers :wink: Welcome back..

Even if no one posts much on here, it's still one of my favourite places on the net. Great minds think alike.
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i think the fact that you all recognize this as an issue means that the board will be around for some time. :) let me just posit this: i have always posted my new stuff on forums, not because i need attention, but because i honestly think people will find it interesting and engage with it in some form. for many years i posted stuff on various radiohead forums. probably about a year i finally joined here and you have all been amazing and by far the most artful and supportive community of internet sirs & maams. amazing. i think i fall into the rut that many fall into of supporting but not directly communicating that. speaking for myself, i will try to be better.

my final note will be this: the fact that everyone is a fucking artist now though really does water down the gene pool. blame garageband and pirated photoshop. :D
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i've been a member since way back and used to post quite regularly circa TCH album & ep because there was more traffic on the forum then; more of a buzz about the place. new boc meant more inspiration and discussion among members but seeing as there has been relatively no output or news for 6 years i began losing interest. it got a bit tiresome seeing the same threads being posted slightly reworded week after week, month after month by a seemingly never-ending list of new members and what waterbagel mentioned above seems to be more of a regular thing now, too. i'll admit, i used to post updates about my music back in '06 & '07 but i was a forum member long before that. as rehashed and repetitive as it sounds boc should provide an update of some solidity so that the speculation and chit-chat of their fans regains some sense of direction but the shit thing is that they simply don't have to, so forums like twoism could continue on down the slope.
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I like twoism.org! I'm not a longtime member and don't post a whole lot, partly because I don't have a lot of interesting stuff to say and partly because I'm a n00b to this forum.

Yet I lurk quite a bit and read posts. You all seem to be creative and intelligent folk--my kind of posters.
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Interesting topic - my posting comes and goes; I went through a phase of hardly ever posting, but seem to be posting a bit more now. I hold my hand up when it comes to posting feedback/ comments on member's tunes - I rarely get to listen as 9 out of 10 times I'm reading and/or posting it's when I'm on the hoof on the iPhone. And to be perfectly honest, I rarely listen to electronic music of any stripe now. It's good to know there are so many talented artists around here though.

The pace of this forum suits me fine, to be honest - I don't have the time, energy or inclination to keep up with anything more frenetic!

This is the only non-industry forum I use (or at least post on); and that's due to the fantastic community that has developed here.
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aged sea wrote:I like twoism.org! I'm not a longtime member and don't post a whole lot, partly because I don't have a lot of interesting stuff to say and partly because I'm a n00b to this forum.

Yet I lurk quite a bit and read posts. You all seem to be creative and intelligent folk--my kind of posters.


I feel the same way..Sometimes I wish there where a "Like" button here :P. I would use it frequently.
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Syberia wrote:
aged sea wrote:I like twoism.org! I'm not a longtime member and don't post a whole lot, partly because I don't have a lot of interesting stuff to say and partly because I'm a n00b to this forum.

Yet I lurk quite a bit and read posts. You all seem to be creative and intelligent folk--my kind of posters.


I feel the same way..Sometimes I wish there where a "Like" button here :P. I would use it frequently.


I can relate to this in a way. I love this forum and it would be cool to be more involved. I see that there are many talented artists and musicians here; I guess I personally feel I don't have much to contribute and I worry I just post a load of bullshit or my feedback / opinions will count for nothing.

Anyway; to me this forum doesn't seem like a waste land, it is a beautiful place out in cyber space with fluctuating interest haha.
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Its great to read all these comments. I guess twoism aint as dead as I thought.

I really hope twoism will stand the test of time and we can be that part of the internet thats still worth coming to. This is one of the only websites I actually love (if not only!), where people are free, highly creative and intelligent without being a douche about it.

So glad this thread has proven me people are still here and active, even if theyre only lurking. (I still think if more lurkers would post twoism would be an even better place, but thats me)

even ross adey said a few words! That made me very warm inside.(plz come back ross!)
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I can understand a lot of what has been said here. I think I mentioned when I joined that I don't usually get involved in forums like these - but on the occasions I used to drop in as a lurker non-member it seemed like a good bunch of people here on the whole, and I think that's still the case.

The other interesting factor was the relative quietude and the smaller community compared to some other forums round and about online. Sounds odd maybe, but I probably wouldn't have joined Twoism if it was packed to the rafters with members all adding to a ton of posts - I'd just be lost in the flow of incoming information - and I dare say things being quieter and maybe a bit more laid back suits me just nicely, so I don't view that as a negative :P

I see other bigger forums that face an influx of members, at certain times of the year they have to deal with what some might call the "kids", either posting inane stuff with deadly seriousness or generally littering the forums with garbage topics for the sake of it... There might be the odd pointless thread made here now and again, but it's not as bad as some and again I think that's an advantage of the modest activity here.

The 'weakest' area just now is the BoC forum, but it's not difficult to see why. There is nothing substantial to discuss, and arguably the most prone to poor topics because of it. I think to a certain degree it's understandable, you know.

However... You'd think the speculation thread was obsolete ages ago - it has actually given rise to some amusing stuff, be it posting ridiculous images, tongue-in-cheek comments and parodies of cover art, and generally going off on ridiculous tangents - those are the highlights, IMO! As I said when I joined, I'm not really one of the BoC die-hards (top tunes though, natch), so I'm more inclined to light and non-serious discussion, rather than continuous analysis during this radio silence :P

Last but certainly not least - there is a heck of a lot of excellent music kicking about from folks here. Proportionally compared to threads about non-member work as well, there is rarely a shortage of stuff incoming. The 'what you are working on now' thread is a fine example of having to be selective at times... Potentially many good ideas, a quick dip in to check out a few.

Similar to others, maybe I should comment more if I can... I remarked on OoT 5 recently (double commented when my first one got lost on the previous page, it seems) and have done so for a few individual works previously but memory is being shite as usual; Cupz and 747 Music spring to mind - and Dissolved posts here, I got to know his stuff thanks to Twoism. The standards are high here - we are talking "Bloody hell, this is brilliant" high. Subforum is certainly an idea.

But, 'wasteland'!? I get what is being said... Just that the use of the word conjures up images of some sort of deserted sector where the buildings have been reduced to rubble and the few remaining inhabitants are living off scraps from bins... I don't think we are there yet :wink:
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Well said betacord! And you're right. Wasteland is an overstatement. I edited my first post. :wink:
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Cupz wrote:Its great to read all these comments. I guess twoism aint as dead as I thought.

I really hope twoism will stand the test of time and we can be that part of the internet thats still worth coming to. This is one of the only websites I actually love (if not only!), where people are free, highly creative and intelligent without being a douche about it.

So glad this thread has proven me people are still here and active, even if theyre only lurking. (I still think if more lurkers would post twoism would be an even better place, but thats me)

even ross adey said a few words! That made me very warm inside.(plz come back ross!)


The first thing that I do when I start up my computer in the morning, is to check out new threads/responses here, as if I'm addicted to a drug or something. For me, I don't talk much - in here, even in real life. But I do feel warm and safe here when I go through all these intersting topics posted here everyday, by the lovely people who share the same intersts with me. I'm so lucky to have such a nice place on the Internet.

Thank you twoism, you'll never be a wasteland for me.
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