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Posted: **Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:52 pm**

Aside from the fine details that are so often missed at first, is just how massive their volume of work is and how overwhelmingly not-lazy almost all of it is. Almost every single piece is the fruit of a lot of imaginative labour. The music always feels fresh. It truly is timeless.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:24 am**

something I've noticed after years of listening....
I've been listening to BoC since 1998 and i find after all this time I've gone right back to where i started.
Music Has the Right to Children is the best thing I've ever laid ears on. this is the most complete most intricate, heart felt album by BoC. you can actually feel what went into this one. i was stuck on Geogaddi for quite some time.
but yesterday i put on Pete Standing Alone because of another thread...and i swear [with my ps1000s on] that track put me on the edge of freakin tears. non shed as i was at werk. but DAMN, I've been fully recaptured by this album I'm stuck listening to it again.
i haven't been for years.
the recording, though quieter is SO engaging. the bass is so tight. everything is so clear. i thought id moved on past this record, but holy shit...im right back in it. I'm so blown away by this album.

thats what i got from years of listening. this album is unstoppable.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:29 pm**

re-phaelam-ed wrote:something I've noticed after years of listening....
I've been listening to BoC since 1998 and i find after all this time I've gone right back to where i started.
Music Has the Right to Children is the best thing I've ever laid ears on. this is the most complete most intricate, heart felt album by BoC. you can actually feel what went into this one. i was stuck on Geogaddi for quite some time.

But Twoism! Nothing is better than Twoism!

Honestly, I'd like MHTRTC much more if it weren't for the last few tracks. For some reason the last side of the record never stood out to me, it just feels like a bland ending. It doesn't help that Smokes Quantity is just recycled from my favorite BoC album. Pete Standing Alone really is much better than its context makes it appear, though. I don't know why, but never stands out in the album, even though it's an incredible track on its own.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:39 pm**

drillkicker wrote: Honestly, I'd like MHTRTC much more if it weren't for the last few tracks. For some reason the last side of the record never stood out to me, it just feels like a bland ending. It doesn't help that Smokes Quantity is just recycled from my favorite BoC album. Pete Standing Alone really is much better than its context makes it appear, though. I don't know why, but never stands out in the album, even though it's an incredible track on its own.

Agreed. MHTRTC should end at Olson. That track is the best "ending" track BoC have ever made; there's such a finality to it that everything that follows it on the album almost feels imported from somewhere else. I agree that Pete Standing Alone is a good track, which makes its placement on the album a shame (there's nothing that can adequately follow Olson). In a world where Olson is the last track, I'd probably use PSA to replace Rue the Whirl, a track that has never had any kind of impact on me whatsoever.

drillkicker wrote: But Twoism! Nothing is better than Twoism!

Ironically, my only problem with Twoism is its title track.

Other than that, I agree it's awesome. Especially Oirectine. I fucking love that track.

Now, something I've recently noticed: The "What comes with uh, chicken fingers?" sample from Dave (I'm a Real Traditionalist) is also one of the samples in A06/5d. I'm not sure if peeps already knew that, but I just discovered it for myself.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:13 pm**

ScienceGuy wrote:Agreed. MHTRTC should end at Olson. That track is the best "ending" track BoC have ever made; there's such a finality to it that everything that follows it on the album almost feels imported from somewhere else. I agree that Pete Standing Alone is a good track, which makes its placement on the album a shame (there's nothing that can adequately follow Olson). In a world where Olson is the last track, I'd probably use PSA to replace Rue the Whirl, a track that has never had any kind of impact on me whatsoever.

That's exactly how I feel. Olson is such a perfect closer that whenever I play the record I completely forget that there's a whole side left to listen to. It always makes me not want to listen to the last four tracks. And after that, "Open the Light" is such an obviously final track that "A Very Important Thought" sounds even more out of place. I'd love it much more if that were the closing track to Geogaddi (instead of "Magic Window"), "Open the Light" were left unreleased, and "Pete Standing Alone" were released on its own single or EP with XYZ or something as the B-side.

I really disagree with you on Aquarius, though. That track is one of the highlights of the album for me. The first time I listened to MHTRTC I thought it was repetitive to the point of nausea and couldn't bear make it through that track in particular. Then I woke up the next morning with the Roygbiv bassline playing in my head and had to listen to it again. It was then that I understood the greatness of the album, and Aquarius has grown on me more and more each time I play it.

ScienceGuy wrote: Ironically, my only problem with Twoism is its title track.

Other than that, I agree it's awesome. Especially Oirectine. I fucking love that track.

Oirectine is great, but Sixtyniner and Melissa Juice are the standouts for me. Those beautiful synth melodies are the best.

ScienceGuy wrote:Now, something I've recently noticed: The "What comes with uh, chicken fingers?" sample from Dave (I'm a Real Traditionalist) is also one of the samples in A06/5d. I'm not sure if peeps already knew that, but I just discovered it for myself.

I never noticed that until someone else pointed it out. Despite (or maybe because of) it being my favorite BoC track ever, I've never bothered analyzing the samples. Their mystery is part of what makes it so beautiful. I have a theory that it's actually a very early version of Dawn Chorus, because of how swirly the samples are in both of them and how similar the rhythms are between the two. Try listening to them side-by-side sometime and see if you notice any similarities. That said, I vastly prefer the R35 version because of how subdued and eerie it is. It makes me think of how it might sound if you were to record a person's raw memories into a musical track.

Posted: **Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:45 pm**

ScienceGuy wrote:Now, something I've recently noticed: The "What comes with uh, chicken fingers?" sample from Dave (I'm a Real Traditionalist) is also one of the samples in A06/5d. I'm not sure if peeps already knew that, but I just discovered it for myself.

Yeah, that was brought up in the thread I made about the samples in that track. In a way I sort of wish I didn't know that they shared that sample, I'm in agreement with Drillkicker that the enigmatic voices scattered throughout make it so much better.

I have also noticed after years of listening that I have completely underestimated The Smallest Weird Number, the beauty of that track just presented itself to me earlier this month and I haven't gone a day without listening to it since; truly evocative and stunning.

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:36 am**

drillkicker wrote:I really disagree with you on Aquarius, though. That track is one of the highlights of the album for me. The first time I listened to MHTRTC I thought it was repetitive to the point of nausea and couldn't bear make it through that track in particular. Then I woke up the next morning with the Roygbiv bassline playing in my head and had to listen to it again. It was then that I understood the greatness of the album, and Aquarius has grown on me more and more each time I play it.

But I didn't say anything bad about Aquarius, I think it's a fine track. Although it is true I used to love it a lot more than I do now, I still think it's quite good.

Rue the Whirl is the one that does absolutely nothing for me. No happiness, no creepiness, no wistfulness, no wonder, not even any irritation at the music being played. It's just a vacuous lump of nothing.

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:45 am**

ScienceGuy wrote:
drillkicker wrote:I really disagree with you on Aquarius, though. That track is one of the highlights of the album for me. The first time I listened to MHTRTC I thought it was repetitive to the point of nausea and couldn't bear make it through that track in particular. Then I woke up the next morning with the Roygbiv bassline playing in my head and had to listen to it again. It was then that I understood the greatness of the album, and Aquarius has grown on me more and more each time I play it.
But I didn't say anything bad about Aquarius, I think it's a fine track. Although it is true I used to love it a lot more than I do now, I still think it's quite good.

Rue the Whirl is the one that does absolutely nothing for me. No happiness, no creepiness, no wistfulness, no wonder, not even any irritation at the music being played. It's just a vacuous lump of nothing.

Wow, what a horrible mistake. I have no idea what happened there, but I apparently got Rue the Whirl and Aquarius confused. Just imagine every mention of Aquarius in that post is actually about Rue the Whirl and you'll get what I was actually trying to say.

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:31 am**

re-phaelam-ed wrote:something I've noticed after years of listening....
I've been listening to BoC since 1998 and i find after all this time I've gone right back to where i started.
Music Has the Right to Children is the best thing I've ever laid ears on. this is the most complete most intricate, heart felt album by BoC. .

Yeah I love this record so much too. It was the first one that I heard and remember when I went to buy my own copy so vividly. I did not own a turntable but i wanted it on vinyl anyway (and subsequently ended up buying turntables so I could listen to it) and the place where I was staying did have a turntable. Years later I wanted to relive the experience of buying that record so I would just go and buy another copy. I think I have four copies of this record and some of them are still sealed. Idolatry I know...

I was wanting Geogaddi to sound just like MHTRTC so much that it was a bit difficult to get into it at first. I have mostly forgiven Geogaddi at this point but only like 98% or so.

If IABPOITC had been an LP I bet it would be higher than MHTRTC in my pantheon.

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:17 pm**

re-phaelam-ed wrote:something I've noticed after years of listening....
I've been listening to BoC since 1998 and i find after all this time I've gone right back to where i started.
Music Has the Right to Children is the best thing I've ever laid ears on. this is the most complete most intricate, heart felt album by BoC. you can actually feel what went into this one. i was stuck on Geogaddi for quite some time.
but yesterday i put on Pete Standing Alone because of another thread...and i swear [with my ps1000s on] that track put me on the edge of freakin tears. non shed as i was at werk. but DAMN, I've been fully recaptured by this album I'm stuck listening to it again.
i haven't been for years.
the recording, though quieter is SO engaging. the bass is so tight. everything is so clear. i thought id moved on past this record, but holy shit...im right back in it. I'm so blown away by this album.

thats what i got from years of listening. this album is unstoppable.

I really like this post. And it's funny that you should say this now. In the last little while I've listened through pretty much all of the BoC we have available to us. Although I listen to a variety of BoC quite often, this time (since I'm no longer sedated) when I went through MHTRTC, I felt like I did when I first became "obsessed" with BoC and listened to the album all the way through. Now I don't honestly know which album is my favorite, Geogaddi or MHTRTC. They're too different to decide, and I don't really care to decide anyways. They're both incredible and are my 2 favorite albums of all time, I'm happy with leaving it at that.

I have to say that although I very much love each song on the album and what they bring to it, I think perhaps An Eagle in Your Mind is my favorite. I have some pretty fond memories as a teenager listening to that song on repeat. Especially memorable because I didn't have a lot of fond memories from around that time in my life. All the details and textures and and melancholy sounds and oh god the part at 3:05 to 3:32 is perhaps one of the most genuinely beautiful things to go through any of my senses!!

But MHTRTC is just packed full of uniquely brilliant songs that contribute in different ways to the overall feeling of the album. So I feel ya re-phaelam-ed, and it feels damn good.

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:24 pm**

I still don't really like Rue The Whirl.

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:32 pm**

chronical wrote:I still don't really like Rue The Whirl.

I love it to bits! It's so old school psychedelic hip-hop-ish. But, to each his own....

P.S. We're no longer friends...

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:11 pm**

747Music wrote:
chronical wrote:I still don't really like Rue The Whirl.
I love it to bits! It's so old school psychedelic hip-hop-ish. But, to each his own....

P.S. We're no longer friends...

I dig it, just in terms of my love for boc this goes a bit under the radar. You will be hearing from my lawyers soon!

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:01 pm**

I still to this day think that one of the voices in Telephasic Workshop is saying something in Dutch: "Hey Jeroen, neem dit nou niet zo 'personal'." aka "Hey Jeroen (Dutch name), don't take this personal". I'm 100% aware that it's actually Scottish, but I still cannot unhear it.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:11 am**

Stavorius wrote:I still to this day think that one of the voices in Telephasic Workshop is saying something in Dutch: "Hey Jeroen, neem dit nou niet zo 'personal'." aka "Hey Jeroen (Dutch name), don't take this personal". I'm 100% aware that it's actually Scottish, but I still cannot unhear it.

i hear 'v..very..ery..ery...nervous' [or something to that effect] as part of the chops.

Posted: **Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:50 pm**

re-phaelam-ed wrote:
Stavorius wrote:I still to this day think that one of the voices in Telephasic Workshop is saying something in Dutch: "Hey Jeroen, neem dit nou niet zo 'personal'." aka "Hey Jeroen (Dutch name), don't take this personal". I'm 100% aware that it's actually Scottish, but I still cannot unhear it.
i hear 'v..very..ery..ery...nervous' [or something to that effect] as part of the chops.

i also wanted to add...

'you y y yo know, y know'
and
'y y our y ou r cond condition' [towards the end]

Posted: **Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:29 am**

chronical wrote:I still don't really like Rue The Whirl.

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Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:18 pm**

re-phaelam-ed wrote:
Stavorius wrote:I still to this day think that one of the voices in Telephasic Workshop is saying something in Dutch: "Hey Jeroen, neem dit nou niet zo 'personal'." aka "Hey Jeroen (Dutch name), don't take this personal". I'm 100% aware that it's actually Scottish, but I still cannot unhear it.
i hear 'v..very..ery..ery...nervous' [or something to that effect] as part of the chops.

It's Bob Villa (If I recall correctly) saying "Very, very small" chopped up with other chopped up vocals.

Posted: **Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:34 pm**

747Music wrote:
re-phaelam-ed wrote:
Stavorius wrote:I still to this day think that one of the voices in Telephasic Workshop is saying something in Dutch: "Hey Jeroen, neem dit nou niet zo 'personal'." aka "Hey Jeroen (Dutch name), don't take this personal". I'm 100% aware that it's actually Scottish, but I still cannot unhear it.
i hear 'v..very..ery..ery...nervous' [or something to that effect] as part of the chops.
It's Bob Villa (If I recall correctly) saying "Very, very small" chopped up with other chopped up vocals.

Yeah, that's what I've always heard. I didn't know that other people never heard the "very small" part. It's always seemed very conspicuous to me.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:36 pm**

drillkicker wrote:
747Music wrote:It's Bob Villa (If I recall correctly) saying "Very, very small" chopped up with other chopped up vocals.
Yeah, that's what I've always heard. I didn't know that other people never heard the "very small" part. It's always seemed very conspicuous to me.

I find it funny that they sampled Bob Vila a couple times. The most obvious samples being at the end of Concourse. I find it funny just because I grew up watching Home Improvement on TV and Tim Taylor's arch-enemy/competition was Bob Vila lol.

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