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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:27 am
by StarblazerUK
seanandcandy wrote:
Fredd-E wrote:
seanandcandy wrote:
But the stream source was VBR 220kbps->300kbps @ 48khz.
mmm on paper, but you hear it fred......you hear it and its just DIFFERENT
might have been a high quality stream but the difference between that and the Itunes previews on itunes japan are quite big. I'd guess it was a case of bandwidth artifacts and compression as well as however it was ripped from the stream.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:31 am
by Solstice
Quillz wrote:It's AD 2013. I see no reason whatsoever there has to be another week for the official American release. It's the age of digital music... Japan is getting it today, just release it today, worldwide, for those who want it digitally. And if you want it on CD, vinyl, whatever, understand it might take a little bit longer.

Really don't see why it isn't just being released today everywhere, but whatever. It's only going to hurt the record label in the end, since by not releasing it now, it's just going to cause more people to download rips, leaks, etc.
It's released in Japan early, to prevent them buying cheaper american or european import copies of the album, due to the higher cost of living over there.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:34 am
by bdzz
Solstice wrote:
Quillz wrote:It's AD 2013. I see no reason whatsoever there has to be another week for the official American release. It's the age of digital music... Japan is getting it today, just release it today, worldwide, for those who want it digitally. And if you want it on CD, vinyl, whatever, understand it might take a little bit longer.

Really don't see why it isn't just being released today everywhere, but whatever. It's only going to hurt the record label in the end, since by not releasing it now, it's just going to cause more people to download rips, leaks, etc.
It's released in Japan early, to prevent them buying cheaper american or european import copies of the album, due to the higher cost of living over there.
That's not true.

http://shop.beatink.com/shopdetail/012023000008/
2000 JPY is like 20 USD. That's almost the same price.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:35 am
by Solstice
seanandcandy wrote:
Fredd-E wrote:
seanandcandy wrote:
But the stream source was VBR 220kbps->300kbps @ 48khz.
mmm on paper, but you hear it fred......you hear it and its just DIFFERENT
I guess it depends on which source the mp3s were encoded from to begin with. iTunes uses the full 24-bit studio masters to encode it's AAC files. Maybe that could explain the difference? Youtube audio always sounds horribly compressed to me.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:37 am
by noby
bdzz wrote:That's not true.

http://shop.beatink.com/shopdetail/012023000008/
2000 JPY is like 20 USD. That's almost the same price.
Historically that's the reason though, and generally music still costs more there and/or is released later than most other places. Nowadays it has become a commonplace convention regardless.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:39 am
by Solstice
bdzz wrote:
Solstice wrote:
Quillz wrote:It's AD 2013. I see no reason whatsoever there has to be another week for the official American release. It's the age of digital music... Japan is getting it today, just release it today, worldwide, for those who want it digitally. And if you want it on CD, vinyl, whatever, understand it might take a little bit longer.

Really don't see why it isn't just being released today everywhere, but whatever. It's only going to hurt the record label in the end, since by not releasing it now, it's just going to cause more people to download rips, leaks, etc.
It's released in Japan early, to prevent them buying cheaper american or european import copies of the album, due to the higher cost of living over there.
That's not true.

http://shop.beatink.com/shopdetail/012023000008/
2000 JPY is like 20 USD. That's almost the same price.
$20? wow that's expensive. It's £8.99 in the UK, that's about $13.50. I couldn't open that link, so i assume that's the CD.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:40 am
by bdzz
We just need to accpet that Warp is just another entartinment company.

That's it. Profit is the goal, they are not a charity.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:41 am
by noby
Solstice wrote:$20? wow that's expensive. It's £8.99 in the UK, that's about $13.50. I couldn't open that link, so i assume that's the CD.
Incidentally the CD in Finland is about 14-15€, which is around $20.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:10 am
by Aesthetics
In Holland they are 17.- euro which is $22.- so, where is our bonus content?? ;)
When I order it from play.com (UK) I only pay 13,52 euro (incl shipping!). Makes me wonder where all the extra cash is going?? Certainly not to the brothers...

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:25 am
by rubot
I wonder if Irish fans will get the mp3s at midnight on Thursday, as its released here on Friday.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:28 am
by Moloch
Fredd-E wrote:
Moloch wrote:What does "mastered for itunes mean"? (sorry if I'm off-topic)
http://bit.ly/11XAHBJ
Yeah I can read Apple's bullshit ;) but does anyone know if there's a real difference between "normal" and iTunes masters?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:47 am
by portiss
I'm kinda pissed of that the loyal fans, who ordered it immediately, probably won't get any proper goodies along the cd. Bleep, way to treat the loyal fans!

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:52 am
by radiateme
portiss wrote:I'm kinda pissed of that the loyal fans, who ordered it immediately, probably won't get any proper goodies along the cd. Bleep, way to treat the loyal fans!
We'll prolly get stickers. Really wish we could just get the HQ downloads already though!

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:54 am
by lyrical
I wouldn't mind a poster and some stickers, but i can't see a poster coming with a Bleep order. Bit disappointed with pre-ordering from Bleep.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:03 am
by portiss
lyrical wrote:I wouldn't mind a poster and some stickers, but i can't see a poster coming with a Bleep order. Bit disappointed with pre-ordering from Bleep.
I sure am, one would think that if you pre-order it on the first day through the official webshop you would at least get the same stuff as you get when you pre-order from the record stores.

If anticipating something new, I'm not ordering through Bleep anymore.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:06 am
by seanandcandy
portiss wrote:If anticipating something new, I'm not ordering through Bleep anymore.
basically this
i love bleep and i love buying digitally through bleep, but when it comes to physical releases i might just stick to 1 copy of each from bleep now

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:13 am
by Jinjur
Ill echo this......

yes, out of all of this.....the music is the most important bit for me

I will as many have said, be very disappointed if i don't end up with a poster, stickers etc. Perhaps I naively assumed that being among the hype crowd on here and busting our nuts to solve problems and jumping on a pre-order within seconds of us sussing it would at least give us something just that wee bit extra to the rest who just saunter down to a local indy and buy the disc.

And I dont see a poster arriving with my cd and vinyl to be honest :(

J

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:59 am
by GH
Yes. Ireland on Friday. If my wife wasn't due I'd try to make it to one of the Record Store listens.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:24 am
by rubot
I'm flying early Friday morning, wont be back til Monday night, severely tempted to get it off iTunes on Friday morning for the weekend despite having already stumped up for the Bleep pre-order...

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:09 pm
by Jinjur
i cannot believe, 7digital has it up for a fiver

no way