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turquoise70 wrote:

Mexicola wrote: EDIT: apparently ol' Barack is now "Deeply concerned about civilian casualties".

For a minute there I was worried Barack Obama was unconcerned about civilian casualties, but I guess everything is okay after all.

*bad mood*

I'm deeply concerned about the weather. :/

702

eppers wrote:702

And 219 of those are children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RmU1_YoZxs
This Is The Israeli Peace

I was near the verge of tears after watching this, so for lack of anything else to do about it, I drew pictures.

Q: What's wrong with this picture?



A: Somewhere in Palestine a doll is missing his little girl.

I thought you where never going to do a picture with a political/social meaning

Cupz wrote:I thought you where never going to do a picture with a political/social meaning

I've done them before. My buddy has a picture I did for the 2008 election, he's going to scan it and reconstruct it in Illustrator.

But mostly I think political artwork is a waste of inspiration. Politics are stupid. Imagination is a way better source of inspiration for me.

WHY OH WHY!

turquoise70 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RmU1_YoZxs
This Is The Israeli Peace

I was near the verge of tears after watching this, so for lack of anything else to do about it, I drew pictures.

Q: What's wrong with this picture?



A: Somewhere in Palestine a doll is missing his little girl.

this is beautifully devastating.
much respect to you man.

765 killed

WARNING: THIS IS VERY EXPLICIT CONTENT.
if you don't have the guts for this, don't click it..

eppers wrote:
WARNING: THIS IS VERY EXPLICIT CONTENT.
if you don't have the guts for this, don't click it..

Horrible...words can not describe.

Fucking inhumane assholes.

eppers wrote:
WARNING: THIS IS VERY EXPLICIT CONTENT.
if you don't have the guts for this, don't click it..

This reminds me of a video I saw of the aftermath of a suicide bombing on a bus in Tel Aviv.

War is hell.

ryetronics wrote:

eppers wrote:
WARNING: THIS IS VERY EXPLICIT CONTENT.
if you don't have the guts for this, don't click it..

This reminds me of a video I saw of the aftermath of a suicide bombing on a bus in Tel Aviv.

War is hell.

same thing?
look at the ratios of Palestinians vs Israelis killed.

Israel is no match to Palestine.
but we Palestinians differ in one thing, we won't give up the land, or give up the fight, or allow someone to oppress us quietly..
it's nothing *like* suicide bombings..

and btw, hamas attacks because that's the only thing Israel is letting it do.. they didn't leave them any choice... get bombed and be quiet?

the zionist state doesn't want peace, they want the whole area cleansed of arabs..

read the facts, don't read zionist propaganda.

eppers wrote:

ryetronics wrote:

eppers wrote:
WARNING: THIS IS VERY EXPLICIT CONTENT.
if you don't have the guts for this, don't click it..

This reminds me of a video I saw of the aftermath of a suicide bombing on a bus in Tel Aviv.

War is hell.

same thing?
look at the ratios of Palestinians vs Israelis killed.

Israel is no match to Palestine.
but we Palestinians differ in one thing, we won't give up the land, or give up the fight, or allow someone to oppress us quietly..
it's nothing *like* suicide bombings..

and btw, hamas attacks because that's the only thing Israel is letting it do.. they didn't leave them any choice... get bombed and be quiet?

the zionist state doesn't want peace, they want the whole area cleansed of arabs..

read the facts, don't read zionist propaganda.

I was only referring to the video and the human suffering after a violent explosion. It's horrible.

Israel continues Gaza assault after rejecting UN demands for an "immediate ceasefire".

At least 792 Palestinians have been killed and 3,250 injured since the Israeli offensive began on December 27.

More than 250 Palestinian children and nearly 92 women are among the dead.

Thirteen Israelis, including three civilians, have been killed during the same period.

ryetronics wrote:

eppers wrote:

ryetronics wrote: This reminds me of a video I saw of the aftermath of a suicide bombing on a bus in Tel Aviv.

War is hell.

same thing?
look at the ratios of Palestinians vs Israelis killed.

Israel is no match to Palestine.
but we Palestinians differ in one thing, we won't give up the land, or give up the fight, or allow someone to oppress us quietly..
it's nothing *like* suicide bombings..

and btw, hamas attacks because that's the only thing Israel is letting it do.. they didn't leave them any choice... get bombed and be quiet?

the zionist state doesn't want peace, they want the whole area cleansed of arabs..

read the facts, don't read zionist propaganda.

I was only referring to the video and the human suffering after a violent explosion. It's horrible.

It is horrible, but a suicide bombing is ONE explosion.
Israel dumps 100's of rockets and bombs and phosphorus bombs (and many other things) on Gaza, every...single...day

Green Pylon wrote:

I hope that's not an attempt to say the holocaust was faked.

Talking numbers (13 Israelis vs 700+ Palestinians) does no good to comfort the loved ones of those who died, on either side. Prizing one side of some stupid bloody conflict over another makes me fucking sick. Israelis are human beings and Palestinians are human beings, it's a tragedy when either of them dies. Fuck the so-called "justifications" for warring on -both- sides. War is ALWAYS the wrong answer. That doesn't mean Palestine has any -other- viable answer available. Sometimes there is no right answer. Sometimes nobody wins. Sometimes everyone fucking loses. War is when everyone loses.

turquoise70 wrote:

Green Pylon wrote:

I hope that's not an attempt to say the holocaust was faked.

Talking numbers (13 Israelis vs 700+ Palestinians) does no good to comfort the loved ones of those who died, on either side. Prizing one side of some stupid bloody conflict over another makes me fucking sick. Israelis are human beings and Palestinians are human beings, it's a tragedy when either of them dies. Fuck the so-called "justifications" for warring on -both- sides. War is ALWAYS the wrong answer. That doesn't mean Palestine has any -other- viable answer available. Sometimes there is no right answer. Sometimes nobody wins. Sometimes everyone fucking loses. War is when everyone loses.

That caricature is obviously saying either that the holocaust made jews into zionists, or that zionists are using the holocaust story to justify the war... it obviously doesn't deny the holocaust, it's too obvious man..

Also, when you lock 1.5 million people into a prison with no basic necessities, i.e. water, electricity, medical supplies, and bomb them continuously, they're going to tend to be violent against their oppressor, don't assume that you're making valid judgments while you haven't been anywhere near that situation.. put yourself in their shoes, and imagine what it would be like.

in my opinion, the war, which tends to get hamas attacking, then israel using that to justify their inhumane attacks, gets civilians in israel voting for the right wing, which get's the racist government doing whatever they want to do..

it's too obvious, what's going on.. it's far from what you're thinking..

peace

eppers wrote:Also, when you lock 1.5 million people into a prison with no basic necessities, i.e. water, electricity, medical supplies, and bomb them continuously, they're going to tend to be violent against their oppressor, don't assume that you're making valid judgments while you haven't been anywhere near that situation.. put yourself in their shoes, and imagine what it would be like.

I get what you're saying dude, but please don't play the "You can't say shit about it at all because you haven't been shelled" move here - I'm allowed an opinion on it and all I'm trying to say is an Israeli non-combatant getting mutilated and murdered makes me as sad as a Palestinian non-combatant getting mutilated and murdered. I don't think that's an invalid judgment.