Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:06 pm
it was some guy called 'prince murat'dave_from_2001 wrote:who is responsible? and how should they be punished?
i think he is dead now.
i think he is dead now.
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i think he is dead now.
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:07 pm
I'm with you! Good thinking!Moebius wrote:I imagine they just originally had the one cassette called "A Few Old Tunes", and retroactively renamed it later on when they decided to make a second cassette, but never bothered to change the art.
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:33 pm
as i remember the watmm user named "prince murat" was only trying to sell stolen copies of the tapes on ebay for a very high amount. the tapes were leaked a good year or so before that incident, how was it confirmed that "prince murat" was responsible for the leakage?audiotrack wrote:it was some guy called 'prince murat'dave_from_2001 wrote:who is responsible? and how should they be punished?
i think he is dead now.
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:10 pm
supposedly there were small differences in each copy that enabled them to tell exactly which one was leaked.novayshun wrote:as i remember the watmm user named "prince murat" was only trying to sell stolen copies of the tapes on ebay for a very high amount. the tapes were leaked a good year or so before that incident, how was it confirmed that "prince murat" was responsible for the leakage?audiotrack wrote:it was some guy called 'prince murat'dave_from_2001 wrote:who is responsible? and how should they be punished?
i think he is dead now.
also, he only had AFOT and OTV2, he never claimed to have the 35 track unlabeled tape.
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:26 pm
Sounds like Kid For Today was in development for a long time. Part of its melody is the whistling noise in Orange Romeda.rdy2bz wrote:I always thought that the whole IABPAITC was done in the Geogaddi-era, but as it turns out, this one song is indeed years older.dealer wrote:so after doing so I checked out the 'As Yet Untitled' track and was amazed to hear an unfinished version of Kid For Today, which is one of my very very favorite tracks.
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:04 am
Kid for Today was a 30-about second clip on the old website whence appeared the mysterious Duffy, Circle and Wouldn't You Like to be a Ham Sandwich snippets. This was in 1998 as I recall, and it was eventually released.Chuck Beckles wrote:Sounds like Kid For Today was in development for a long time. Part of its melody is the whistling noise in Orange Romeda.rdy2bz wrote:I always thought that the whole IABPAITC was done in the Geogaddi-era, but as it turns out, this one song is indeed years older.dealer wrote:so after doing so I checked out the 'As Yet Untitled' track and was amazed to hear an unfinished version of Kid For Today, which is one of my very very favorite tracks.
Prince Murat sounds like Fence My Hat kind of. Is the T silent?
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:00 am
Nice to see you read my last post.Earthbound wrote:I'm with you! Good thinking!Moebius wrote:I imagine they just originally had the one cassette called "A Few Old Tunes", and retroactively renamed it later on when they decided to make a second cassette, but never bothered to change the art.
The best evidence we have is the cat numbers
AFOT = 1
OTV2 = 3
OTV1 = ???
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:22 pm
Any way we can hear this unfinished version of Kid For Today? Or can you upload the tape you have? Or are you going to be a dork and not share?
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:30 pm
Hold up. Dealer? Don't you think they might check this forum out for shit and giggles ( I mean it's on warps site) and see that you have this tape and that you received it from the little girl in the Geogaddi art? Do you think then they would get pissed off at the fact they gave it to her and then she just gave it to you? I mean it has unreleased non finished songs.
I wanna hear that kid for today track. Hearing is believing!
Also, I think it would be nice to have some high res shots of the case, tape and cover art!!!!
I wanna hear that kid for today track. Hearing is believing!
Also, I think it would be nice to have some high res shots of the case, tape and cover art!!!!
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:32 pm
i think that probably speaks for a lot of us.polar sky wrote:I wanna hear that kid for today track. Hearing is believing!
Also, I think it would be nice to have some high res shots of the case, tape and cover art!!!!
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:01 pm
I dont think Moebius meant what you are saying. I think he meant that AFOT came to be known as OTV1 after OTV2 was created.BunnyRabbit wrote:Nice to see you read my last post.Earthbound wrote:I'm with you! Good thinking!Moebius wrote:I imagine they just originally had the one cassette called "A Few Old Tunes", and retroactively renamed it later on when they decided to make a second cassette, but never bothered to change the art.
The best evidence we have is the cat numbers
AFOT = 1
OTV2 = 3
OTV1 = ???
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:21 pm
Yeah, I hate to be the greedy internet type, but what's the point if we don't get to hear anything?polar sky wrote:Any way we can hear this unfinished version of Kid For Today? Or can you upload the tape you have? Or are you going to be a dork and not share?
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:49 pm
Even though that copy can be traced because of the "differences" the copy that Prince Murat had in his possession was not given to him. The tapes he tried to sell had passed through two other people to get to him. The tapes were originally given to Brian Flanagan (who was then skam's designer as Studio Moo, also 1/2 of Datathief) who then loaned it to his then girlfriend (ex-WATMM moderator) Octave Kitten and then was subsequently stolen by Prince Murat (her then current BF).Moebius wrote:supposedly there were small differences in each copy that enabled them to tell exactly which one was leaked.novayshun wrote:as i remember the watmm user named "prince murat" was only trying to sell stolen copies of the tapes on ebay for a very high amount. the tapes were leaked a good year or so before that incident, how was it confirmed that "prince murat" was responsible for the leakage?audiotrack wrote: it was some guy called 'prince murat'
i think he is dead now.
also, he only had AFOT and OTV2, he never claimed to have the 35 track unlabeled tape.
Even if that version of the tape can be traced as the leak, there are at least three possible suspects.
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:56 pm
Thank youaudiotrack wrote:I dont think Moebius meant what you are saying. I think he meant that AFOT came to be known as OTV1 after OTV2 was created.BunnyRabbit wrote:Nice to see you read my last post.Earthbound wrote: I'm with you! Good thinking!
The best evidence we have is the cat numbers
AFOT = 1
OTV2 = 3
OTV1 = ???
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:11 pm
But why is the labeling on the cover 'A Few Old Tunes' and the casette 'Old Tunes Vol. 1'
Maybe we are jumping to conclusions.
Maybe we are jumping to conclusions.
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:10 pm
yes, but who is the girl?
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:17 am
isnt it possible that there is just "a few old tunes (AKA old tunes vol 1)" and "old tunes vol 2"
i think what is known as "old tunes vol 1" is actually something else.
i guess it doesnt really matter. but i always thought that a few old tunes, and old tunes vol 2 seemed to be siblings. while what we know as "old tunes vol. 1" has a different feel to it.
i think what is known as "old tunes vol 1" is actually something else.
i guess it doesnt really matter. but i always thought that a few old tunes, and old tunes vol 2 seemed to be siblings. while what we know as "old tunes vol. 1" has a different feel to it.
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:30 am
am I the only one here who doesn't care?? don't get me wrong I like the music on a few old tunes, but damn...
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:58 am
sevenELIXIR wrote:am I the only one here who doesn't care?? don't get me wrong I like the music on a few old tunes, but damn...
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:11 am
nope don't worrysevenELIXIR wrote:am I the only one here who doesn't care?? don't get me wrong I like the music on a few old tunes, but damn...