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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:29 pm
by drixlin
Ender wrote:
Bahaha, that last question.
LOL
For some reason all I could think of after reading it was (Beavis as) Cornholio's "Are you threatening me?" line. Awesome.
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:18 pm
by warphead
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
ps I am a mahoosive afx fan (as in fucking huge lol)
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:38 pm
by Negamuse
warphead wrote:
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
ps I am a mahoosive afx fan (as in fucking huge lol)
I'm consoling myself that there's probably more than two people in Scotland.
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:43 pm
by warphead
MrMessiah wrote:warphead wrote:
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
ps I am a mahoosive afx fan (as in fucking huge lol)
I'm consoling myself that there's probably more than two people in Scotland.
Oh yeah....
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:45 pm
by warphead
MrMessiah wrote:warphead wrote:
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
ps I am a mahoosive afx fan (as in fucking huge lol)
I'm consoling myself that there's probably more than two people in Scotland.
Oh yeah. Silly billys..
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:21 pm
by SonicDimension
TaoTapeTao wrote:Their music is responsible for me understanding nature as mathematical and that in fact math is nature and math is organic and not some unnatural strange set or rules or laws we came up with one day. Maybe psychedelics helped in this understanding too.. lol. Well both of those combined I guess.
Math is no more or less 'natural' than other languages. Pure math is essentially a bunch of games with rules invented by humans, but some natural phenomena or patterns can be 'understood' (or reflected in the human consciousness) in terms of the concepts and symbolic systems we invented, like numbers, space and time, and various branches of mathematics. So I disagree with your assertion that math and nature are identical. That idea seems naively anthropocentric. There is so much more in nature than any humans will ever be able to understand or express in words, math, music or any other form of culture or communication.
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:27 pm
by 747Music
Interviewer: "describe you music in one word"
RDJ: "dflaghaozoushiduqwd"
LOL
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:39 pm
by cpt.falcon
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
yeah man! i want it to be true so badly haha.
I'm pretty sure boc have mentioned aphex twin in past interviews...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:12 pm
by sloshnpecs
There are two people in the Krankies
You don't think that naughty Mr. James might be trying to wind up BoC fans?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:50 pm
by Ender
cpt.falcon wrote:The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
yeah man! i want it to be true so badly haha.
I'm pretty sure boc have mentioned aphex twin in past interviews...
boc wrote:Do you ever think of making the music and images all in the one go? Do you think of your music in terms of images?
Of course, but more in a natural intuitive way, rather than being deliberate about it. The most outstanding electronic musicians, like Aphex Twin, like their music to sound “cinematique”, in other words, in terms of images. It’s a way of working that is all the easier for musicians who don’t specifically have the dancefloor in mind when they’re making a track. If you can dance to one of our tracks, well and good, but it’s not what we’re aiming at. We give ourselves the greatest possible freedom to work in, with the goal of translating emotions rather than trying to make people dance. There are plenty of people who can do that better than we can. So what would be the point of setting ourselves up to make a worse job of it?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:52 pm
by Magrathea
SonicDimension wrote:TaoTapeTao wrote:Their music is responsible for me understanding nature as mathematical and that in fact math is nature and math is organic and not some unnatural strange set or rules or laws we came up with one day. Maybe psychedelics helped in this understanding too.. lol. Well both of those combined I guess.
Math is no more or less 'natural' than other languages. Pure math is essentially a bunch of games with rules invented by humans, but some natural phenomena or patterns can be 'understood' (or reflected in the human consciousness) in terms of the concepts and symbolic systems we invented, like numbers, space and time, and various branches of mathematics. So I disagree with your assertion that math and nature are identical. That idea seems naively anthropocentric. There is so much more in nature than any humans will ever be able to understand or express in words, math, music or any other form of culture or communication.
Humans like to have systems and put rules, undertand, organize, reduce the perceived entropy into something manageable. While maths are a human invention or set of rules, the underlying principles remain as they are, the mass of the proton is such and is such everywhere, Pi has the same value everywhere within the universe (can't speak of others as the basic laws/rules might be totally different and play on spacetime curvature etc) but you get my drift.
I wouldn't want people to imagine that Pi is 3.141592... just because it was explained as such, no matter which system or rules, the ratio for a circle is the same across the universe and that is true of many other things.
Now would aliens enjoy BOC? Who knows
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:20 pm
by Spine
Plans for tomorrow guys? It's gonna be a big day!
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:07 am
by Kathleen
Spine wrote:Plans for tomorrow guys? It's gonna be a big day!
I am literally going to Disneyland. I'm in SoCal on vacation.
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:03 am
by Fireal420
june 9th tomorrow. i feel the new album may be coming soon.
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:57 am
by m.oreilly
Magrathea wrote:SonicDimension wrote:TaoTapeTao wrote:Their music is responsible for me understanding nature as mathematical and that in fact math is nature and math is organic and not some unnatural strange set or rules or laws we came up with one day. Maybe psychedelics helped in this understanding too.. lol. Well both of those combined I guess.
Math is no more or less 'natural' than other languages. Pure math is essentially a bunch of games with rules invented by humans, but some natural phenomena or patterns can be 'understood' (or reflected in the human consciousness) in terms of the concepts and symbolic systems we invented, like numbers, space and time, and various branches of mathematics. So I disagree with your assertion that math and nature are identical. That idea seems naively anthropocentric. There is so much more in nature than any humans will ever be able to understand or express in words, math, music or any other form of culture or communication.
Humans like to have systems and put rules, undertand, organize, reduce the perceived entropy into something manageable. While maths are a human invention or set of rules, the underlying principles remain as they are, the mass of the proton is such and is such everywhere, Pi has the same value everywhere within the universe (can't speak of others as the basic laws/rules might be totally different and play on spacetime curvature etc) but you get my drift.
I wouldn't want people to imagine that Pi is 3.141592... just because it was explained as such, no matter which system or rules, the ratio for a circle is the same across the universe and that is true of many other things.
Now would aliens enjoy BOC? Who knows
undertand indeed
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:46 pm
by Echo the Sun
in honour of june 9th, i will post a comment.
please, boc, give us a new album.
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:50 pm
by Echo the Sun
MrMessiah wrote:warphead wrote:
The thought had crossed my mind when I read the interview too. Were they playing him the new album? We'll never know but it could be true.
ps I am a mahoosive afx fan (as in fucking huge lol)
I'm consoling myself that there's probably more than two people in Scotland.
definitely. there's at least 8
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:43 am
by Betacord
There's over 15, I think
Re: The Maths discussion thingy - we created it and because as a language we understand many things through it, we then say things 'are mathematical' when we are technically referring to those pre-existing laws are rules of form which have been crucially identified and expressed in maths, such that they are closely linked - that's what I assume TTT above is getting at, not meant too literally (because that would be silly) but I could be wrong?
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:28 am
by TaoTapeTao
SonicDimension wrote:TaoTapeTao wrote:Their music is responsible for me understanding nature as mathematical and that in fact math is nature and math is organic and not some unnatural strange set or rules or laws we came up with one day. Maybe psychedelics helped in this understanding too.. lol. Well both of those combined I guess.
Math is no more or less 'natural' than other languages. Pure math is essentially a bunch of games with rules invented by humans, but some natural phenomena or patterns can be 'understood' (or reflected in the human consciousness) in terms of the concepts and symbolic systems we invented, like numbers, space and time, and various branches of mathematics. So I disagree with your assertion that math and nature are identical. That idea seems naively anthropocentric. There is so much more in nature than any humans will ever be able to understand or express in words, math, music or any other form of culture or communication.
I guess I was being to vague but I was mostly trying to say that I've observed nature and the universe to be a highly complex, self referencing system/organism which can be compared to our language of mathematics. Basically what betacord just said.
Yes math comes from our observations of laws of the universe but I mean more that it is highly organized and complex and self referencing "being" and works much like the mathematical idea of fractals. And that after some psychedelic experiences my previous notion of mathematics as just a set of strange rules was replaced with an understanding of it being a reflection of a much more inherent and organic behavior of the universe, and that we've picked up on this pattern of nature and created mathematics as a language to describe it.
And since math is an extension of ourselves, it IS natural. We come from nature. Also in general since we created maths as a result of observed behaviors of the universe and nature it is therefore a reflection (although ultimately imperfect) of the behavior of the universe and there is established a significant connection between math and nature. How else would we be able to make incredible predictions about the behavior of the universe and physics and countless other things?
But yes, for the most part I agree with what you're saying, and that language is only an approximation of what is really going on. Ultimately it boils down to plato's cave and us humans are stuck trying to describe the (I believe) infinity of nature/the universe through our limited perception and experience of it.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:30 am
by TaoTapeTao
And sorry for the wall of text lol
