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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:03 pm
by Vexille
turquoise70 wrote:Making my vows right now - not listening to this if it leaks. Waiting til I get my copy and making it an historic day of new BoCness.
welcome glentennis, nice name

great job
Any leaks are likely to be fake anyways.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:36 pm
by esselfortium
dp wrote:ryetronics wrote:For a band that releases music so rarely, it would seem to me the only way to release this album without it leaking is to pull a Radiohead and give a week's notice at most.
That's not possible. Radiohead aren't on a label whereas BoC are.
How is it not possible? What's stopping BoC or anybody else from asking the guys at Warp if they can do the same thing, with a download-only release shortly after the announcement, followed by a physical release a few months later? If they wanted to do it that way, they probably have enough clout with Warp to make it happen.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:59 pm
by 747Music
Vexille wrote:turquoise70 wrote:Making my vows right now - not listening to this if it leaks. Waiting til I get my copy and making it an historic day of new BoCness.
welcome glentennis, nice name

great job
Any leaks are likely to be fake anyways.
That's my thoughts as well. I will listen when I purchase the digital copy along with the physical copy. Can't wait.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:07 pm
by Mexicola
Everything I've heard from BOC, I've heard first on CD or MP3. I'm making myself a promise that this record will be exactly that - a record. I'm not listening until I have the vinyl in my hand and on my turntable.
Of course, I'm saying that now, but..
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:25 pm
by ryetronics
Vexille wrote:turquoise70 wrote:Making my vows right now - not listening to this if it leaks. Waiting til I get my copy and making it an historic day of new BoCness.
welcome glentennis, nice name

great job
Any leaks are likely to be fake anyways.
I remember downloading a leak of Campfire Headphase about a week before release and it turned out the be the album...
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:44 pm
by Stry Craty Bya
ryetronics wrote:Vexille wrote:turquoise70 wrote:Making my vows right now - not listening to this if it leaks. Waiting til I get my copy and making it an historic day of new BoCness.
welcome glentennis, nice name

great job
Any leaks are likely to be fake anyways.
I remember downloading a leak of Campfire Headphase about a week before release and it turned out the be the album...
How could this long awaited, sacred upcoming release POSSIBLY be leaked. Like, I can't wrap my head around that to even find it ironically funny...
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:22 am
by dp
esselfortium wrote:dp wrote: ryetronics wrote: For a band that releases music so rarely, it would seem to me the only way to release this album without it leaking is to pull a Radiohead and give a week's notice at most.
That's not possible. Radiohead aren't on a label whereas BoC are.
How is it not possible? What's stopping BoC or anybody else from asking the guys at Warp if they can do the same thing, with a download-only release shortly after the announcement, followed by a physical release a few months later? If they wanted to do it that way, they probably have enough clout with Warp to make it happen.
Radiohead aren't bound by the restraints of a record label. So they can do whatever they want and let the labels come to them.
I suppose BoC could ask Warp to set up up something similar but I just don't see it happening. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE IT if BoC followed Radiohead's lead and released the album like that. I just don't think Warp will allow it.
But what the hell do I know? I'm just a lowly fan-boy picking at the scraps that BoC throw on the ground.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:07 am
by Pretty in Pink
Pretty in Pink wrote:I don't think a new album is coming out this year. Pretty much given up all hope of new BoC stuff.
Heh
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:51 am
by dp
Pretty in Pink wrote:Pretty in Pink wrote: I don't think a new album is coming out this year. Pretty much given up all hope of new BoC stuff.
Heh
Unfortunately, you could still be right. Nothing is officially confirmed yet. It's still just an empty box at this point.
But don't let that hinder you're excitement. I'm not!

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:02 am
by turquoise70
i'm imagining everyone who's posting in this thread as typing at the computer with a freakishly large boner.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:05 am
by Magrathea
Pretty in Pink wrote:Pretty in Pink wrote:I don't think a new album is coming out this year. Pretty much given up all hope of new BoC stuff.
Heh
Then again it makes no sense to update a website if there's nothing coming up... or to start a twitter account...
Something's coming... "I amar prestar aen. Han mathon ne nen, han mathon ne chae a han noston ned wilith."

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:26 am
by SonicDimension
I hope Mike and Marcus do a bunch of interviews after the album is released to fill us in on what they have been up to for the past five years and to explain how their musical direction and production techniques have changed during this time. I suspect that this new album is going to be a major step forward technically, but I'm not sure. Will they still be using tape, old akai hardware samplers, analog synths, etc. or will they try something really different? Are they still avoiding computers and software for making music or have they decided to give it a chance?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:39 am
by esselfortium
SonicDimension wrote:I hope Mike and Marcus do a bunch of interviews after the album is released to fill us in on what they have been up to for the past five years and to explain how their musical direction and production techniques have changed during this time. I suspect that this new album is going to be a major step forward technically, but I'm not sure. Will they still be using tape, old akai hardware samplers, analog synths, etc. or will they try something really different? Are they still avoiding computers and software for making music or have they decided to give it a chance?
If I remember correctly, they've only avoided working with computers at certain point(s) during their career. They've used software before.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:31 am
by Mexicola
Here's a thought to warm the cockles of your heart. Right now - RIGHT NOW! - somewhere in the World, a carefully selected group of Warp bods probably has a copy of the new album (we're assuming it's an album, right?). Somebody has heard it and is planning interviews, photoshoots, artwork, production runs and.......dare I whisper it.....live shows???
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:33 pm
by Blink of an eye
esselfortium wrote:SonicDimension wrote:I hope Mike and Marcus do a bunch of interviews after the album is released to fill us in on what they have been up to for the past five years and to explain how their musical direction and production techniques have changed during this time. I suspect that this new album is going to be a major step forward technically, but I'm not sure. Will they still be using tape, old akai hardware samplers, analog synths, etc. or will they try something really different? Are they still avoiding computers and software for making music or have they decided to give it a chance?
If I remember correctly, they've only avoided working with computers at certain point(s) during their career. They've used software before.
I seem to remember reading and interview saying that with the campfire headphase they put everything together in logic. After the treatments and everything that they did of course, that would explain why it sounded a lot cleaner than their other albums.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:37 pm
by Pretty in Pink
Blink of an eye wrote:esselfortium wrote:SonicDimension wrote:I hope Mike and Marcus do a bunch of interviews after the album is released to fill us in on what they have been up to for the past five years and to explain how their musical direction and production techniques have changed during this time. I suspect that this new album is going to be a major step forward technically, but I'm not sure. Will they still be using tape, old akai hardware samplers, analog synths, etc. or will they try something really different? Are they still avoiding computers and software for making music or have they decided to give it a chance?
If I remember correctly, they've only avoided working with computers at certain point(s) during their career. They've used software before.
I seem to remember reading and interview saying that with the campfire headphase they put everything together in logic. After the treatments and everything that they did of course, that would explain why it sounded a lot cleaner than their other albums.
Yeah. Something about getting 'that perfect German timing' if I recall.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:43 pm
by PadraïK
turquoise70 wrote:i'm imagining everyone who's posting in this thread as typing at the computer with a freakishly large boner.
It's a blue site, not a blue pill
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:36 pm
by SonicDimension
Blink of an eye wrote:esselfortium wrote:SonicDimension wrote:I hope Mike and Marcus do a bunch of interviews after the album is released to fill us in on what they have been up to for the past five years and to explain how their musical direction and production techniques have changed during this time. I suspect that this new album is going to be a major step forward technically, but I'm not sure. Will they still be using tape, old akai hardware samplers, analog synths, etc. or will they try something really different? Are they still avoiding computers and software for making music or have they decided to give it a chance?
If I remember correctly, they've only avoided working with computers at certain point(s) during their career. They've used software before.
I seem to remember reading and interview saying that with the campfire headphase they put everything together in logic. After the treatments and everything that they did of course, that would explain why it sounded a lot cleaner than their other albums.
I'm pretty sure they have been using computers for sequencing/arranging since MHTRTC, maybe earlier. I remember reading that they used computers quite a lot on MHTRTC, but from Geogaddi on they made a conscious decision to do all of their composition away from the computer and only use the computer for arranging/mixing purposes.
I'm just wondering if they have maybe tried using some software instruments. As far as I know, they have never used a softsynth on any of their tracks.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:43 pm
by esselfortium
SonicDimension wrote:I'm just wondering if they have maybe tried using some software instruments. As far as I know, they have never used a softsynth on any of their tracks.
How do you know? For all any of us can say for sure, "Dayvan Cowboy" could be comprised entirely of processed and looped samples of the Sandisons eating rutabagas.
Literally any of their songs from the past 10 or so years could be using software synths and/or effects. That you can't tell for sure one way or the other is why they're professionals.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:21 pm
by SonicDimension
esselfortium wrote:SonicDimension wrote:I'm just wondering if they have maybe tried using some software instruments. As far as I know, they have never used a softsynth on any of their tracks.
How do you know? For all any of us can say for sure, "Dayvan Cowboy" could be comprised entirely of processed and looped samples of the Sandisons eating rutabagas.
Literally any of their songs from the past 10 or so years could be using software synths and/or effects. That you can't tell for sure one way or the other is why they're professionals.
Just based on things they have said in interviews. They said they don't like VA synths and I think they do their sampling on hardware like the Akai S series. We know that most of their sound sources are acoustic instruments/sounds recorded onto tape and samplers along with their Roland SH-101 and a few other vintage electronic instruments. They have been critical of 'laptop musicians' who do everything on the computer. It's certainly possible that they have used some software instruments on their past records, but it doesn't really fit with their aesthetic or workflow.