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I saw the documentary Room 237 about the shining yesterday.

Damn, I knew that movie was deep, but I didn't know it was THAT deep

Cupz wrote:I saw the documentary Room 237 about the shining yesterday.

Damn, I knew that movie was deep, but I didn't know it was THAT deep

Admittedly a few of the theories in that documentary are proper crackpot crazy. Some of it is fascinating though and definitely made me view The Shining in a different light.

IanRedpoint wrote:

Cupz wrote:I saw the documentary Room 237 about the shining yesterday.

Damn, I knew that movie was deep, but I didn't know it was THAT deep

Admittedly a few of the theories in that documentary are proper crackpot crazy. Some of it is fascinating though and definitely made me view The Shining in a different light.

Agreed, even though I am willing to believe Kubrick added crackpot crazy shit in there on purpose Going from something like 2001 to The Shining makes one wonder what the fuck happened, is going on and where the catch is. Makes allof of the theories allot less crazy if you ask me.
But I agree, Kubrick directing the moon-landing footage is a bit out there and got me a little sarcasta-face ( ). Especially ROOM N == MOON ROOM.

They showed Room 237 the night before The Shining: Forwards + Backwards at a theatre here in Ottawa last month. Still bummed that I saw neither..being a brokeass college student sucks sometimes.

Gonna necro this having just seen Room 237 myself. Some pretty out there ideas about the movie (sort of reminds me of the dedication that we have to BoC here) and some of the arguments presented really did make me realize that they are sort of following the same path as Kubrick did, but with music.

If you look at MHTRTC and Geogaddi as equivalent to 2001 and A Clockwork Orange, TCH was their equivalent to Barry Lyndon, pretty but kind of boring, made by people who had already "mastered" their art and maybe felt trapped in the box they had put themselves into.

The same way that The Shining was kind of a 180 from Barry Lyndon, so is TH from TCH. I thought it was really cool when they played the movie backwards and forward at the same time, it reminded me of what we were doing with TH after it was released.

Well I think, I may consider myself a Kubrick film fan. Few directors and films can do the same impact, as the Kubrick do. I wish would live in the years when Kubrick was making his films, to go watch Shining on a big screen would be amazing, even Eyes wide shut. And I love this movie. It has that ominous feeling through whole film, the last waltz before entering the void.

The Masked Ball in reversed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMrn-iKHiPE

A Clockwork Orange may just be the greatest film ever made.
Watched Barry Lyndon for the first time despite having had it on DVD for a year last night, absolutely gorgeous film, the sets are so lavish, the cinematography is unbelievable, the acting is superb and the music is unbelievably good.
Kubrick's work is the perfect example of the parts of art exclusive to film being used to their full extent. Each film offers this in a different way.

I've only ever watched The Shining and 2001: A Space Odyssey (need to rewatch the latter actually, first watched it at school); I'm planning on watching Dr. Strangelove... very soon, though.

I can't even imagine how mind-blowing it must have been to walk into a cinema in 1968 and watch 2001.

I love the part in The Shining with the tricycle... the sound it makes as he rides from carpet to the wood floor. Textbook movie tension example. Bravo Kubrick, Bravo.

Haha I thought at first before i clicked on this thread it could go either way - Director or Mogwai song. So while I am here Stanley Kubrick is also a nice song.

jcnporter wrote:I can't even imagine how mind-blowing it must have been to walk into a cinema in 1968 and watch 2001.

Yup. This 100%.

since we are going all Kubrick here … what's interesting is before there was BOC there was Kubrick - in the MUSICAL sense. yeah, so i was a punk teen watching 2001, Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, and Shining and what they all have in common is my discovery of truly amazing soundtrack music.

Kubrick's films inadvertently had a tremendous impact on my scope of music. i realized Front 242 wasn't the only thing out there. i fell in love with Beethoven (Clockwork), Handel (Lyndon), Strauss (2001), and even the then slightly retro/quirky electronica of the time (Wendy Carlos).

the context with which he deploys these remarkable soundtracks is unparalleled. i don't mean to say there aren't better soundtracks ... but music married to film: i think Kubrick is pure genius.

matter of fact, to this day if anyone even mentions Kubrick, the very first thing i envision is that Pan-Am clipper/ space station docking sequence and Strauss in the background.

paul wrote:since we are going all Kubrick here … what's interesting is before there was BOC there was Kubrick - in the MUSICAL sense. yeah, so i was a punk teen watching 2001, Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, and Shining and what they all have in common is my discovery of truly amazing soundtrack music.

Kubrick's films inadvertently had a tremendous impact on my scope of music. i realized Front 242 wasn't the only thing out there. i fell in love with Beethoven (Clockwork), Handel (Lyndon), Strauss (2001), and even the then slightly retro/quirky electronica of the time (Wendy Carlos).

the context with which he deploys these remarkable soundtracks is unparalleled. i don't mean to say there aren't better soundtracks ... but music married to film: i think Kubrick is pure genius.

matter of fact, to this day if anyone even mentions Kubrick, the very first thing i envision is that Pan-Am clipper/ space station docking sequence and Strauss in the background.

Good call. And György Ligeti

Mexicola wrote:Good call. And György Ligeti

of course! the experimental Ligeti compositions ... with those you didn't need acid but i guess it didn't hurt.

Not watched it yet, but thought I'd share it here.

I'd wanted to see it since becoming a fan of Jon Ronson's work, so I'm happy to see someone's upped his documentary Stanley Kubrick's Boxes to Vimeo (almost a year ago, haha):

http://vimeo.com/78314194

As I understand, it's about Ronson's experince being granted access to Kubrick's vast collection of boxes storing a variety of incomplete scripts, scraps of ideas, photographs, etc.. Thought some of you may be interested; and also, if I post it here, I might not forget to watch it, myself.

Oh I definitely have to watch that when I get a free moment! I went to the Stanley Kubrick exhibit when it was here in LA late 2012 and they had some of his boxes on display along with an amazing card catalog he created. It was vast, insanely detailed (no duh, it's Kubrick) & it was for the Napoleon film he never filmed. Very cool & makes me sad that he never did it.

On a side note I've been trying to find the footage of the infamous night here in LA @ the Egyptian Theatre in September 2010 where a man tripping balls on acid had a massive wigout during the Stargate sequence. Someone filmed it and I could find the footage for awhile but lately it's all been pulled :( sad because it's fantastic.

My wife's cousin in New Zealand just posted a link to this cool little Kubrick art collection.

Seriously, a friendship (or whatever it was - civility, at the very least) was broken between myself and another person, which was followed by intentional harassment from that person, all because I had stated that while I give him props for all that he is done, I think the people who rave about Kubrick being the "greatest filmmaker ever" are off and that in that regard, he (and almost anyone else declared, on a regular basis, the "greatest filmmaker ever") is overrated. The difference of that opinion broke civility.


People apparently take Kubrick very seriously, apparently to the point of losing their mind over an opinion they're not really understanding at that moment to begin with. 2001 is amazing. The dude broke ground, no doubt - I wish he had 'imagined' more. Much of his greatest work was a portrayal of something that initially stemmed from another person's mind, be it something that's a straightforward adaptation or co-written or whatever.

jcnporter wrote:I can't even imagine how mind-blowing it must have been to walk into a cinema in 1968 and watch 2001.

Yeah. Seems like very motivating years '68 and '69. I personally think the Moon Landing was real... although the movie sure serves some nice propaganda for compootors, perhaps seeding the programmors of years to come (say who became 20 in '80-'95). Here's a taste from those years:

1968 Intel Corporation is founded by Robert Noyce and Gordon Moore on July 18, 1968.
1968 Hewlett Packard began marketing the first mass-marketed PC and the worlds first desktop computer, the HP 9100A.
1968 Bob Propst invents the office cubicle.
1968 Larry Roberts publishes ARPANET program plan on June 3, 1968. (precursor to internet)
1968 On June 4, 1968 Dr. Robert Dennard at the IBM T.J. Watson Research center is granted U.S. patent #3,387,286 describing a one-transistor DRAM cell. DRAM will later replace magnetic core memory in computers.
1968 First RFP for a network goes out. (precursor to internet)
1968 UCLA is selected to be the first node on the Internet as we know it today.
1968 The movie "2001: A Space Odyssey" is released.
1968 SHRDLU is created. (precursor to modern GUI)
1968 Seiko markets a miniature printer for use with calculators.
1968 Sony invents Trinitron. (first high quality TV tube)
1968 Douglas Engelbart publicly demonstrates Hypertext on the NLS on December 9, 1968.
1969 Control Data Corporation led by Seymour Cray, release the CDC 7600, considered by most to be the first supercomputer.
1969 AT&T Bell Laboratories develop Unix.
1969 David S. Lee invents the daisy wheel printer at Diablo Data Systems. (pro quality typesetting on a typewriter)
1969 The first totally artificial heart is placed into Haskell Carp on April 4, 1969 for 64 hours until a donor heart became available.
1969 Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) is founded on May 1, 1969.
1969 Gary Starkweather, while working with Xerox invents the laser printer.
1969 UCLA puts out a press release introducing the public to the Internet on July 3, 1969.
1969 At 20:18 UTC on July 21, 1969 the Apollo 11 space craft lands on the moon and Neil Armstrong becomes the first human to walk on the moon.
1969 Intel sells its first commercial product, the 3101 Schottky bipolar 64-bit SRAM chip.
1969 Ralph Baer files for a US Patent on August 21, 1969 that describes playing games on a television and would later be a part of the Magnavox Odyssey.
1969 On August 29, 1969 the first network switch and the first piece of network equipment (called "IMP", which is short for Interface Message Processor) is sent to UCLA.
1969 The first U.S. bank ATM went into service at 9:00am on September 2, 1969.
1969 On September 2, 1969 the first data moves from UCLA host to the IMP switch.
1969 Charley Kline a UCLA student tries to send "login", the first message over ARPANET at 10:30 p.m on October 29, 1969. The system transmitted "l" and then "o" but then crashed making today the first day a message was sent over the Internet and the first network crash. (lo...l)
1969 CompuServe, the first commercial online service, is established.
1970 Western Digital is founded.

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Cupz wrote:I saw the documentary Room 237 about the shining yesterday.

Damn, I knew that movie was deep, but I didn't know it was THAT deep

Oh, I didn't know that documentary was JUST on The Shining. I thought it was on all of his movies and I was going to wait until I saw more films before I watched it. Now, I'm just gonna watch...

A couple friends and I read The Shining about a month ago and I was a bit disappointed at how different it was from the movie. But, I suppose they're to be seen as two separate entities really, as Kubrick's work is still absolute flawlessness.