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i agree with d4verd4nn on this, hhowever with listening to poppy seed reprise for the first time a few days ago, i cant help but yearn for their older sound. its the old if it aint broke dont fix it. i am still enjoying TCH and will do for some time to come, however i hope that this is not a sign of things to come. i do prefer the raw analogue synth mixed with modern synth and samples from before the new album. i not concerned with hidden messages in their music (although it does make it interesting), it was always the melody, ive always loved the melody. thats what evokes the emotions in me when i listen to BoC.

Patience everyone! After numerous listens, I'm starting to get the impression that this is certainly the most challenging of BoC's albums, but is that such a bad thing? Also, from the sound of their comments in a number of their interviews, they are quickly getting to work on a new release of some kind. Trying to decode what they are actually saying in these interviews leaves the door open for all kinds of possibilities. Remember how manipulative these guys can be...if you ask me, they have us right where they want us.

I don't see the comparision with Zero 7 and Air, which are both awesome bands but people need to look deeper than that. Why? Cause they use guitars? It's just not fair to lump them in the same catagory. I do agree with Ross Aday on the fact that OSTRE is too busy and probably my least favorite on the album.

Fredd-E wrote:

ollie_in_berlin wrote:Who cares anyway, it just isn't boards.

Yes it's Autechre in disguise.

Maybe it's Fredd-E in disguise

zander two wrote:Patience everyone! After numerous listens, I'm starting to get the impression that this is certainly the most challenging of BoC's albums, but is that such a bad thing? Also, from the sound of their comments in a number of their interviews, they are quickly getting to work on a new release of some kind. Trying to decode what they are actually saying in these interviews leaves the door open for all kinds of possibilities. Remember how manipulative these guys can be...if you ask me, they have us right where they want us.

agreed

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion.

Everything is subjective.

Please don't try to turn subjective opinions into facts. That's just plain wrong.

And that's what some people are doing over here.

A shame.

i think i have been guilty from time to time of the aformentioned accusation. i will try not to be so forceful with my opinions from now on. the last thing that we want is a lynch mob.

Fredd-E wrote:Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion.

Everything is subjective.

Please don't try to turn subjective opinions into facts. That's just plain wrong.

And that's what some people are doing over here.

A shame.

Many thx for that epigraph headmaster

ollie_in_berlin wrote:Alright everyone, lets all simmer down. In a way I'm glad my post has stirred up this little hornets nest, but lets get one thing straight, I'm not comparing TCH to MHTRTC or Geogaddi, i'm criticising the new release in it's own right. Of course I don't believe Marc and Mike should have stuck to the same sound, but I think there are very specific reasons for them taking this direction, one is that Mike had a baby recently, and peoples priorities change when a baby is brought in to the equation, the other is that both the boys have spent a long time, probably skint trying to get recognised, and are now making a break for it, (and I don't blame them)
So, at the end of the day we can all argue about this until the cows fly home, but, I've stated my case, and there's no more to be said about it, apart from, It's not a good record, and I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are equally disappointed.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh. HAHAHAHAHA.

steve-o wrote:

ollie_in_berlin wrote:Alright everyone, lets all simmer down. In a way I'm glad my post has stirred up this little hornets nest, but lets get one thing straight, I'm not comparing TCH to MHTRTC or Geogaddi, i'm criticising the new release in it's own right. Of course I don't believe Marc and Mike should have stuck to the same sound, but I think there are very specific reasons for them taking this direction, one is that Mike had a baby recently, and peoples priorities change when a baby is brought in to the equation, the other is that both the boys have spent a long time, probably skint trying to get recognised, and are now making a break for it, (and I don't blame them)
So, at the end of the day we can all argue about this until the cows fly home, but, I've stated my case, and there's no more to be said about it, apart from, It's not a good record, and I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are equally disappointed.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh. HAHAHAHAHA.

Hmm...people don't change overnight. They don't give up a lifetime of principles for money. Remember this is what BoC have been doing since they were kids, it's no doubt instinctive to them, they'd do it even if they weren't signed, and they'll probably keep making music long after they stop releasing it. Do BoC really strike you as a band looking for recognition! If they really cared they'd do tons more interviews, live shows, videos, singles ect. It is painfully obvious to everybody how much they care about their art.

If they really wanted to make money, they would've simply released twice the number of cds over the past few years...hell, we all know they are prolific enough. No, instead they spent ages perfecting one record...again what does this tell you? If they simply wanted to make money, why not just release back catalogue songs? TCH is a great record, don't lose your objectivity because it wasn't what you were expecting.

Hey, I have'nt seen Ollie in Berlin around here lately. Maybe we scared him away?

HEY..."just relax...and enjoy this pleasant adventure..." thanks D

Solstice wrote:

steve-o wrote:

ollie_in_berlin wrote:Alright everyone, lets all simmer down. In a way I'm glad my post has stirred up this little hornets nest, but lets get one thing straight, I'm not comparing TCH to MHTRTC or Geogaddi, i'm criticising the new release in it's own right. Of course I don't believe Marc and Mike should have stuck to the same sound, but I think there are very specific reasons for them taking this direction, one is that Mike had a baby recently, and peoples priorities change when a baby is brought in to the equation, the other is that both the boys have spent a long time, probably skint trying to get recognised, and are now making a break for it, (and I don't blame them)
So, at the end of the day we can all argue about this until the cows fly home, but, I've stated my case, and there's no more to be said about it, apart from, It's not a good record, and I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are equally disappointed.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh. HAHAHAHAHA.

Hmm...people don't change overnight. They don't give up a lifetime of principles for money. Remember this is what BoC have been doing since they were kids, it's no doubt instinctive to them, they'd do it even if they weren't signed, and they'll probably keep making music long after they stop releasing it. Do BoC really strike you as a band looking for recognition! If they really cared they'd do tons more interviews, live shows, videos, singles ect. It is painfully obvious to everybody how much they care about their art.

If they really wanted to make money, they would've simply released twice the number of cds over the past few years...hell, we all know they are prolific enough. No, instead they spent ages perfecting one record...again what does this tell you? If they simply wanted to make money, why not just release back catalogue songs? TCH is a great record, don't lose your objectivity because it wasn't what you were expecting.

Thanks for that, i can't stop laughing.

Whatever...my point is valid. Now, off back to your sonic forest.

word

Solstice wrote:Whatever...my point is valid. Now, off back to your sonic forest.

Valid in your opinion = subjective for me.

cmx wrote:word

damn straight

ross adey wrote:

cmx wrote:word

damn straight

damn you.

Derail wrote:Hey, I have'nt seen Ollie in Berlin around here lately. Maybe we scared him away?

You like scaring people away
SHAME ON YOU

D4VERD4NN wrote:

ross adey wrote:

cmx wrote:word

damn straight

damn you.

what did i say????
i was merely swapping street lingo with my homeboy cmx.