New Boc Maybe Yes?

Green Pylon · Post by **Green Pylon** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:20 pm

I agree with john, Boc achieved a great status on modern music. I guess that new album is upcoming nearer the time. Their works and news are very acclaimed... and now, we only can wait.

bluesky · Post by **Fredd-E** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:13 pm

nice new information by trustful member MDG on Watmm: http://forum.watmm.com/index.php?s=&sho ... t&p=545779

mdg wrote:
Opoth wrote:I think the situation is that the Old Tunes tapes were actually compiled after Twoism and Maxima, sometime before Hi Scores was released, cherry picking their older material that seemed the most similar to what they were putting out at that time. This was a pretty turbulent time for them, as they were building their name in the IDM scene and probably dealing with some people for the first time that might not hold their music as closely or privately as they would have liked. The tapes are basically compilations of their time - you don't really get a taste of their supposedly gothic or MBV phases like they've talked about in interviews, other than a couple of songs on OTV1 that use more traditional instrumentation. We'll probably never know, but it's a safe bet that something like Play by Numbers which sounds like it's probably the closest thing they've done to straight ahead rock music based on the sample they released from Wouldn't You Like to Be Free? and that sound probably wasn't very compatible with how they were trying to establish themselves around the time of Twoism and Hi Scores.

This is more or less right - what you've heard on these leaked compilations is really only the tip of the iceberg. There's a number of other compilations, demos and so on that were made even prior to these, going back years, beyond the handful of known titles that have surfaced. Bear in mind that even the tapes and discs that were put together and distributed are still relatively only a small selection picked from a much larger legacy of unheard work. If they were to release every single track they've ever recorded, you'd be looking at a massive number of albums simply to get through it all.

Behind the scenes Mike and Marcus are very prolific, and have always produced a lot of what they call 'collateral' material. There's a huge archive. Some of the material dates right back to 1983, but the real body of work in the archives begins around 1986-1987 and ramps up around 1991. The band has been working through these archives for the past two years or so - whenever they've been free, in an effort to place the work into 'chapters'. But it's a huge time-consuming job in itself just to archive it properly and clean it up. (The analogue cassette archive alone took a year or so to work through).
It seems there's a good chance that some of the older work (and the side-project work) will now get a release in some form, maybe in installments. The plans for this are still being thrashed out, although it's always a low-priority issue as obviously the upcoming album is the main thing everyone is concentrating on right now.

I hope this clears it up a bit for you!

thedisavowed · Post by **thedisavowed** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:05 pm

Very cool.

A_Northern_Soul · Post by **A_Northern_Soul** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:50 pm

Very cool indeed.

harpoon dodger · Post by **harpoon dodger** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:08 am

This is more than very cool...its..ultra-cool?

mechanismj · Post by **mechanismj** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:38 am

Fantastic!

Flyingpurplepeopleeater · Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:41 pm

Here's all the proof I need that aint nothing happening for a long while yet;

http://www.warprecords.com/

Fearless Flounder · Post by **Fearless Flounder** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:41 pm

Yeah as is mentioned by that fella from Watmm who is a reliable source, a new album would be preferable over a boxset of old stuff.
I'd be interested to hear the older stuff but I think that if it was considerably mindblowing and not just a curiousity it would have been available already. Stuff like BOC Maxima, Old tunes is sweet but obviously was leaked and so everyone is familiar with it. I doubt very much that their older tapes are the Holy grail, more like just a few demos.

I wanna know where there heads are at now?

I'm really hoping they confound expectation and do something really radical and different. Possibly something really upbeat and energetic, leaning more towards their 80's pop influences but still keeping things a bit abstract.
Something different from previous albums but with a slight hint of that old trademark sound.
But I'd be still happy with the old BoC sound.
Knowwhatumsayin?

Cupz · Post by **Cupz** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:18 pm

Fearless Flounder wrote: Knowwhatumsayin?

Yeah, but...I don't know. 80's Pop, man?

ross adey · Post by **ross adey** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:29 pm

Cupz wrote:
Fearless Flounder wrote: Knowwhatumsayin?
Yeah, but...I don't know. 80's Pop, man?

they're heavily influenced by '80s pop. dexy's midnight runners have even been mentioned.

Infinite E · Post by **Infinite E** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:41 pm

i know zacklywatchasayn boyeeeeeee

Green Pylon · Post by **Green Pylon** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:46 pm

I guess something like happy cycling...
good news from mdg! I can't wait anymore!!!
hey boc's...

see ya

boardsofdublin · Post by **boardsofdublin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:46 pm

Fearless Flounder wrote:
I wanna know where there heads are at now?

I'm really hoping they confound expectation and do something really radical and different. Possibly something really upbeat and energetic, leaning more towards their 80's pop influences but still keeping things a bit abstract.
Something different from previous albums but with a slight hint of that old trademark sound.
But I'd be still happy with the old BoC sound.
Knowwhatumsayin?

Have to say i would like to hear this. would be completely different for them and for us. just one album of chessy 70's nostalgia dark disco/sparkly pop. And then release a box set at the same time maybe?

Fearless Flounder · Post by **Fearless Flounder** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:50 pm

Cupz wrote:
Fearless Flounder wrote: Knowwhatumsayin?
Yeah, but...I don't know. 80's Pop, man?

Yeah, you can't beat a bit of good '80's pop'. The good stuff of course.
I can imagine as with Autechre that 80's electro is big with them, but they have mentioned that '80's pop' as being amongst their influences.
You can see it in the Hell Interface stuff that it's an era that they grew up in and reference. I don't think they were taking the piss completely with those Hell interface records.
I've read that they're into the Human League and I can definately hear a slight influence there of things like Gary Numan, Thomas Dolby, Trevor Horn, Shannon etc. Maybe it's not really obvious but I can understand them referencing 80's pop and reckon some of those colourful bubbly lysergic synth sounds in their music is testament to a band that grew up listening to radio in the 80's. Just my personal opinion though.

THINKER · Post by **THINKER** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:52 pm

Just who exactly is mdg..?

Am i right his name is Mark Goderich or something like that..?
How does he fit into the BoC saga..?

mechanismj · Post by **mechanismj** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:14 pm

ross adey wrote:
Cupz wrote:
Fearless Flounder wrote: Knowwhatumsayin?
Yeah, but...I don't know. 80's Pop, man?
they're heavily influenced by '80s pop. dexy's midnight runners have even been mentioned.

Yeah. Can you blame them though? Some of that shit is the best!

thedisavowed · Post by **thedisavowed** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:00 am

The more I listen to Cocteau Twins and My Bloody Valentine the more I wouldn't be opposed to BoC heading down that path, so long as they have the voices/lyrics to make it work.

hexagon son · Post by **hexagon son** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:10 pm

THINKER wrote:Just who exactly is mdg..?

Am i right his name is Mark Goderich or something like that..?
How does he fit into the BoC saga..?

he is a member of hexagon sun.

mechanismj · Post by **mechanismj** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:26 pm

Fredd-E wrote:nice new information by trustful member MDG on Watmm: http://forum.watmm.com/index.php?s=&sho ... t&p=545779

mdg wrote:
Opoth wrote:I think the situation is that the Old Tunes tapes were actually compiled after Twoism and Maxima, sometime before Hi Scores was released, cherry picking their older material that seemed the most similar to what they were putting out at that time. This was a pretty turbulent time for them, as they were building their name in the IDM scene and probably dealing with some people for the first time that might not hold their music as closely or privately as they would have liked. The tapes are basically compilations of their time - you don't really get a taste of their supposedly gothic or MBV phases like they've talked about in interviews, other than a couple of songs on OTV1 that use more traditional instrumentation. We'll probably never know, but it's a safe bet that something like Play by Numbers which sounds like it's probably the closest thing they've done to straight ahead rock music based on the sample they released from Wouldn't You Like to Be Free? and that sound probably wasn't very compatible with how they were trying to establish themselves around the time of Twoism and Hi Scores.

This is more or less right - what you've heard on these leaked compilations is really only the tip of the iceberg. There's a number of other compilations, demos and so on that were made even prior to these, going back years, beyond the handful of known titles that have surfaced. Bear in mind that even the tapes and discs that were put together and distributed are still relatively only a small selection picked from a much larger legacy of unheard work. If they were to release every single track they've ever recorded, you'd be looking at a massive number of albums simply to get through it all.

Behind the scenes Mike and Marcus are very prolific, and have always produced a lot of what they call 'collateral' material. There's a huge archive. Some of the material dates right back to 1983, but the real body of work in the archives begins around 1986-1987 and ramps up around 1991. The band has been working through these archives for the past two years or so - whenever they've been free, in an effort to place the work into 'chapters'. But it's a huge time-consuming job in itself just to archive it properly and clean it up. (The analogue cassette archive alone took a year or so to work through).
It seems there's a good chance that some of the older work (and the side-project work) will now get a release in some form, maybe in installments. The plans for this are still being thrashed out, although it's always a low-priority issue as obviously the upcoming album is the main thing everyone is concentrating on right now.

I hope this clears it up a bit for you!

Is this some new info? Has mdg been talking a lot lately?

polar sky · Post by **polar sky** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:45 pm

thedisavowed wrote:The more I listen to Cocteau Twins and My Bloody Valentine the more I wouldn't be opposed to BoC heading down that path, so long as they have the voices/lyrics to make it work.

I wouldnt mind that.