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mdg wrote:

Opoth wrote:I think the situation is that the Old Tunes tapes were actually compiled after Twoism and Maxima, sometime before Hi Scores was released, cherry picking their older material that seemed the most similar to what they were putting out at that time. This was a pretty turbulent time for them, as they were building their name in the IDM scene and probably dealing with some people for the first time that might not hold their music as closely or privately as they would have liked. The tapes are basically compilations of their time - you don't really get a taste of their supposedly gothic or MBV phases like they've talked about in interviews, other than a couple of songs on OTV1 that use more traditional instrumentation. We'll probably never know, but it's a safe bet that something like Play by Numbers which sounds like it's probably the closest thing they've done to straight ahead rock music based on the sample they released from Wouldn't You Like to Be Free? and that sound probably wasn't very compatible with how they were trying to establish themselves around the time of Twoism and Hi Scores.

This is more or less right - what you've heard on these leaked compilations is really only the tip of the iceberg. There's a number of other compilations, demos and so on that were made even prior to these, going back years, beyond the handful of known titles that have surfaced. Bear in mind that even the tapes and discs that were put together and distributed are still relatively only a small selection picked from a much larger legacy of unheard work. If they were to release every single track they've ever recorded, you'd be looking at a massive number of albums simply to get through it all.

Behind the scenes Mike and Marcus are very prolific, and have always produced a lot of what they call 'collateral' material. There's a huge archive. Some of the material dates right back to 1983, but the real body of work in the archives begins around 1986-1987 and ramps up around 1991. The band has been working through these archives for the past two years or so - whenever they've been free, in an effort to place the work into 'chapters'. But it's a huge time-consuming job in itself just to archive it properly and clean it up. (The analogue cassette archive alone took a year or so to work through).
It seems there's a good chance that some of the older work (and the side-project work) will now get a release in some form, maybe in installments. The plans for this are still being thrashed out, although it's always a low-priority issue as obviously the upcoming album is the main thing everyone is concentrating on right now.

I hope this clears it up a bit for you!

Fearless Flounder wrote: Knowwhatumsayin?

Cupz wrote:

Fearless Flounder wrote: Knowwhatumsayin?

Yeah, but...I don't know. 80's Pop, man?

Fearless Flounder wrote:
I wanna know where there heads are at now?

I'm really hoping they confound expectation and do something really radical and different. Possibly something really upbeat and energetic, leaning more towards their 80's pop influences but still keeping things a bit abstract.
Something different from previous albums but with a slight hint of that old trademark sound.
But I'd be still happy with the old BoC sound.
Knowwhatumsayin?

Cupz wrote:

Fearless Flounder wrote: Knowwhatumsayin?

Yeah, but...I don't know. 80's Pop, man?

ross adey wrote:

Cupz wrote:

Fearless Flounder wrote: Knowwhatumsayin?

Yeah, but...I don't know. 80's Pop, man?

they're heavily influenced by '80s pop. dexy's midnight runners have even been mentioned.

THINKER wrote:Just who exactly is mdg..?

Am i right his name is Mark Goderich or something like that..?
How does he fit into the BoC saga..?

Fredd-E wrote:nice new information by trustful member MDG on Watmm: http://forum.watmm.com/index.php?s=&sho ... t&p=545779

mdg wrote:

Opoth wrote:I think the situation is that the Old Tunes tapes were actually compiled after Twoism and Maxima, sometime before Hi Scores was released, cherry picking their older material that seemed the most similar to what they were putting out at that time. This was a pretty turbulent time for them, as they were building their name in the IDM scene and probably dealing with some people for the first time that might not hold their music as closely or privately as they would have liked. The tapes are basically compilations of their time - you don't really get a taste of their supposedly gothic or MBV phases like they've talked about in interviews, other than a couple of songs on OTV1 that use more traditional instrumentation. We'll probably never know, but it's a safe bet that something like Play by Numbers which sounds like it's probably the closest thing they've done to straight ahead rock music based on the sample they released from Wouldn't You Like to Be Free? and that sound probably wasn't very compatible with how they were trying to establish themselves around the time of Twoism and Hi Scores.

This is more or less right - what you've heard on these leaked compilations is really only the tip of the iceberg. There's a number of other compilations, demos and so on that were made even prior to these, going back years, beyond the handful of known titles that have surfaced. Bear in mind that even the tapes and discs that were put together and distributed are still relatively only a small selection picked from a much larger legacy of unheard work. If they were to release every single track they've ever recorded, you'd be looking at a massive number of albums simply to get through it all.

Behind the scenes Mike and Marcus are very prolific, and have always produced a lot of what they call 'collateral' material. There's a huge archive. Some of the material dates right back to 1983, but the real body of work in the archives begins around 1986-1987 and ramps up around 1991. The band has been working through these archives for the past two years or so - whenever they've been free, in an effort to place the work into 'chapters'. But it's a huge time-consuming job in itself just to archive it properly and clean it up. (The analogue cassette archive alone took a year or so to work through).
It seems there's a good chance that some of the older work (and the side-project work) will now get a release in some form, maybe in installments. The plans for this are still being thrashed out, although it's always a low-priority issue as obviously the upcoming album is the main thing everyone is concentrating on right now.

I hope this clears it up a bit for you!

thedisavowed wrote:The more I listen to Cocteau Twins and My Bloody Valentine the more I wouldn't be opposed to BoC heading down that path, so long as they have the voices/lyrics to make it work.