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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:22 am
by hexagon161
Well, given that boc have stated in interviews that they are not religious at all, one has to assume that this literally means they are not religious either way - neither christian, satanist or whatever.

Your approaching it from the wrong direction. BOC have stated that they are interested in science and clearly know what evolution is and how it works. Now, civilisation is anti-evolution because with civilisation you get farming and with farming you get selective-breeding. Any genetic mutation that say a cow, for example, develops which might be an advantage to it in surviving the human dinner-plate is quickly surpressed and so the cow doesn't evolve, it 's kept the same by humans. And, because the prey never changes the human never has to adapt (evolve) in order to "catch" it - the human remains the same. On the otherhand, the wild human, the inuit say does evolve because it's prey, the caribou, evolves. Spear-throwing or whatever might be alright for a few millenia but eventually the caribou will adapt (evolve) and in turn the human will have to adapt (ie. only those humans able to find a new method will survive and reproduce). And this, from an evolutionary point-of-view, gives the wild human a meaning to it's life whereas the civilised human is just living for it's own enjoyment.
With civilisation you get 'specialists' whereas the "primitive" human is a self-sufficient jack-of-all-trades. Now, when a big disaster comes along (meteor impact, super-volcano.. ) or indeed man-made global catastrophe, the primitive human has the advantage because he doesn't have to rely on the farmer, the baker and so on. The primitive human can stand on his own two feet. And this is where the references in BOC's music to the book of revelations comes in. I'm not religious myself but having read revelations it is clear that Saint John the mushroom-head knew how the world works (a couple of thousand years before Darwin came along) and I guess boc have noticed this also. "666" is not so much a reference to satanism but more a reference to Revelations. It's all a view based on science but it's curious that revelations seems to be saying the same thing. The logic says that civilisation will come crashing down and so does revelations (civilisation=babylon). It seems (from the interviews) that boc agree with this view from a logical standing-point and so this accounts for the isolationist, anarchic, anti-society undertones in the music.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:27 am
by nny
hexagon161 wrote:Well, given that boc have stated in interviews that they are not religious at all, one has to assume that this literally means they are not religious either way - neither christian, satanist or whatever.

Your approaching it from the wrong direction. BOC have stated that they are interested in science and clearly know what evolution is and how it works. Now, civilisation is anti-evolution because with civilisation you get farming and with farming you get selective-breeding. Any genetic mutation that say a cow, for example, develops which might be an advantage to it in surviving the human dinner-plate is quickly surpressed and so the cow doesn't evolve, it 's kept the same by humans. And, because the prey never changes the human never has to adapt (evolve) in order to "catch" it - the human remains the same. On the otherhand, the wild human, the inuit say does evolve because it's prey, the caribou, evolves. Spear-throwing or whatever might be alright for a few millenia but eventually the caribou will adapt (evolve) and in turn the human will have to adapt (ie. only those humans able to find a new method will survive and reproduce). And this, from an evolutionary point-of-view, gives the wild human a meaning to it's life whereas the civilised human is just living for it's own enjoyment.
With civilisation you get 'specialists' whereas the "primitive" human is a self-sufficient jack-of-all-trades. Now, when a big disaster comes along (meteor impact, super-volcano.. ) or indeed man-made global catastrophe, the primitive human has the advantage because he doesn't have to rely on the farmer, the baker and so on. The primitive human can stand on his own two feet. And this is where the references in BOC's music to the book of revelations comes in. I'm not religious myself but having read revelations it is clear that Saint John the mushroom-head knew how the world works (a couple of thousand years before Darwin came along) and I guess boc have noticed this also. "666" is not so much a reference to satanism but more a reference to Revelations. It's all a view based on science but it's curious that revelations seems to be saying the same thing. The logic says that civilisation will come crashing down and so does revelations (civilisation=babylon). It seems (from the interviews) that boc agree with this view from a logical standing-point and so this accounts for the isolationist, anarchic, anti-society undertones in the music.
I think it is all about culture and common knowledge.
Timothy Leary said "Think for yourself and question authority".

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:34 am
by Cupz
ExitEuXa wrote:
The Whirl wrote:.....so this BOC fan here might retire as well :cry:
I'm an atheist myself and i'm glad that BoC are no christians! When i read your words here it's clear to me your a religious fanatic and i don't have any respect for that. Christianity is responsible for lot's of suffering throughout the history of humankind, if their is a satan it's them. :x
Ouch...double ouch....

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:58 am
by Cupz
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?c ... e=Aarg.mp3

The proof that it isn`t hard for making someone believe you`re a satanic someone.
If you reverse this track you`ll hear: You will worship.I made this in 10 min.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:49 pm
by Lawrence
The Whirl wrote:i'll go back to lurking on far more interesting message boards than this little piece of JV bullshit. bye now!
Aaarrmm!! You squared! I'm telling your priest of you!

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:05 pm
by boardsofdublin
Image
Look into my eyes, not around my eyes, into my eye..... your under.. :lol:

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:51 pm
by Goiter Sanchez
boardsofdublin wrote:Image
Look into my eyes, not around my eyes, into my eye..... your under.. :lol:
Damn... That's quite a creepy picture when you really look at it...

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:23 pm
by ExitEuXa
Goiter Sanchez wrote:
boardsofdublin wrote:Image
Look into my eyes, not around my eyes, into my eye..... your under.. :lol:
Damn... That's quite a creepy picture when you really look at it...
Beelzebub on Twoism. 8)

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:29 pm
by Derail
He looks like he's on ecstacy to me. :?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:56 pm
by boardsofdublin
deffo and it looks like a camera phone to me too. lol.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:25 pm
by isawdrones
haah yeah. That picture always trips me out. The images with distorted proportions are my faves tho.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:14 pm
by ExitEuXa
boardsofdublin wrote:deffo and it looks like a camera phone to me too. lol.
[off topic]

Is that an ass on your new avatar? Or am i on E? 8)

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:25 pm
by boardsofdublin
ExitEuXa wrote:
boardsofdublin wrote:deffo and it looks like a camera phone to me too. lol.
[off topic]

Is that an ass on your new avatar? Or am i on E? 8)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: no. just saw that. i must change it now. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:15 am
by ExitEuXa
boardsofdublin wrote:
ExitEuXa wrote:
boardsofdublin wrote:deffo and it looks like a camera phone to me too. lol.
[off topic]

Is that an ass on your new avatar? Or am i on E? 8)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: no. just saw that. i must change it now. :lol: :lol: :lol:
hahahahaha. 8)

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:39 am
by hexagon son
i just went through all of steamrunners posts, and man, what a cock! it sounds like he's been trying to turn people off of BoC since he's been here. and he apparently knows BoC's booking agent. what a delusional fuckwit. interface my fist steamrunner. actually i would kill for acid memories, hooper bay etc. i would kill him. whos up for a good old fashioned lynching. after all, thats what they used to do...

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:58 pm
by kem1kal
haha hex


as for that picture up there, look at the sunset in the background :)

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:20 pm
by Cupz
kem1kal wrote:haha hex


as for that picture up there, look at the sunset in the background :)
That looks very boccish...

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:49 pm
by hexagon son
i love sunsets and sunrises. i should really spend more time outdoors...

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:23 am
by Cupz
hexagon son wrote:i love sunsets and sunrises. i should really spend more time outdoors...
Yeah,me 2...

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:17 pm
by steve-o
ExitEuXa wrote:
Goiter Sanchez wrote:
boardsofdublin wrote:Image
Look into my eyes, not around my eyes, into my eye..... your under.. :lol:
Damn... That's quite a creepy picture when you really look at it...
Beelzebub on Twoism. 8)
Yeah satanists and Buddhists are in cahoots :roll: