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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:59 am
by seagull
SAVVON wrote:I HATE NUMBERS
You.
I like you.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:01 am
by qrotozoa
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:11 am
by chesspeaceface
http://www.stormbound.org/waco.html
Did anyone ID the flag from the projection?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:50 am
by 1969InTheSunshine
seagull wrote:SAVVON wrote:I HATE NUMBERS
You.
I like you.
Ditto. Fuck numbers, man

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:56 am
by Elephant Face
Okay, I just got done closing at work and this thread has over TRIPLED in number of pages, please someone! Give me a TLDR version of what's happened in the past seven hours!
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:59 am
by Capt Kittinger
Posted this in the General Spec thread, but they look like UN flags to me, and there are UN flags in Close Encounters..
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:04 am
by Torn n Frayed
Capt Kittinger wrote:
Posted this in the General Spec thread, but they look like UN flags to me, and there are UN flags in Close Encounters..
Yeah, that was my thought some pages back when the Texas flag was mentioned. UN flag indeed!
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:04 am
by Elexen
Capt Kittinger wrote:
Posted this in the General Spec thread, but they look like UN flags to me, and there are UN flags in Close Encounters..
From the lo-fi pics we got.... looks like it could be either of these flags... and both seem to have a bit of relevance... the one being related to Branch Davidians and the other CE3K connection.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:05 am
by Magrathea
I had a long hard look, seems to be just a piece of material with a tear in it, Just before that sequence you see another such piece flapping in a window space of the buildings.
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I am perplexed a bit by some of the Rough Trade hints...
11:42 PM - 26 Apr 13 "He says the sun came out last night. He says it sang to him."
of course as many pointed before there seems to be something hinting at Close Encounter of the Third Kind.
Old Man: ¡El sol salió anoche y me cantó!
Translator: He says the sun came out last night. He says it sang to him.
[Literally: The sun came out last night and sang to me! ]
We have had so far encounters of the
First kind:
Definition: Visual sightings of an unidentified flying object.
We have had visual sightings of an unidentified BOC record
Second kind:
Definition: Visual sightings plus the accompanying of physical evidence.
We have that, plus two records in the hands of people, and various elements (NPR, BBC R1, etc.)
heading towards...
Third kind:
Definition: Sightings of "occupants" in and around the UFO.
Sightings of... Boards of Canada?
The sun (hexagon sun) came out and sang to me?
Are they hinting at some sort of one-off event for the release or should I really hit the sack?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:18 am
by Elexen
Magrathea wrote:
I had a long hard look, seems to be just a piece of material with a tear in it, Just before that sequence you see another such piece flapping in a window space of the buildings.
------
I am perplexed a bit by some of the Rough Trade hints...
11:42 PM - 26 Apr 13 "He says the sun came out last night. He says it sang to him."
of course as many pointed before there seems to be something hinting at Close Encounter of the Third Kind.
Old Man: ¡El sol salió anoche y me cantó!
Translator: He says the sun came out last night. He says it sang to him.
[Literally: The sun came out last night and sang to me! ]
We have had so far encounters of the
First kind:
Definition: Visual sightings of an unidentified flying object.
We have had visual sightings of an unidentified BOC record
Second kind:
Definition: Visual sightings plus the accompanying of physical evidence.
We have that, plus two records in the hands of people, and various elements (NPR, BBC R1, etc.)
heading towards...
Third kind:
Definition: Sightings of "occupants" in and around the UFO.
Sightings of... Boards of Canada?
The sun (hexagon sun) came out and sang to me?
Are they hinting at some sort of one-off event for the release or should I really hit the sack?

Haha... IDK.... yeah, I should hit the sack too. But I definitely think the next clue will make the RoughTrade event make sense and things will fall more into place...
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:24 am
by zeitgeist
just to do a broad recap:
the texas flag idea was what i saw in that video of the window projections. joyrex laughed at me on watmm for that, so i don't think that's it, despite any possible waco stuff.
the close encounters movie tie has been 'debunked' because rough trade posted a comment earlier about their friend feeling like they were in the 3rdKind movie and so they offhandedly tweeted their fav quote from the movie. not related to BOC or the clues apparently. they were explicit in their intentions of removing any implications they had made regarding that and any boc clues.
the flag looks more like a windsock to me now to be honest. maybe at some defunct nuclear test site in nevada? nevar="to snow" in spanish, similar to the nuevas semillas/cosecha spanish stuff. that idea mainly coming from the "snow" part of the julie and candy YT vid.
edit: removed a line bcuzimtired.
that's all i've got.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:36 am
by Magrathea
zeitgeist wrote:
today was the 70th (music70?) anniversary of Chernobyl nuclear disaster. maybe newcleardawn related.
Nope, it is the 27th anniversary, happened in 1986, I remember that vividly too, tense times.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:40 am
by zeitgeist
Magrathea wrote:zeitgeist wrote:
today was the 70th (music70?) anniversary of Chernobyl nuclear disaster. maybe newcleardawn related.
Nope, it is the 27th anniversary, happened in 1986, I remember that vividly too, tense times.
yeah, late night typo. clearly not possible. my bad. don't even know where i heard/saw a 70th anniversary reference to/for.....don't even know where i am anymore. bedtime!
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:04 am
by Opothecary
1977 seems to be the cipher, or call sign for the numbers station.
New Clear Dawn 1977 is the name of a video on Youtube (we all remember NCD - but the video itself is unimportant, only the name matters):
As I mentioned, it reminds us of:
http://newcleardawn.com/
Triangles and eyes are features prominently. Note the pyramid with the all seeing eye.
36 is a triangular number:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_number
http://milan.milanovic.org/math/english ... gular.html
What if we toss all the known numbers in a hat without any regard for their original broadcast order/sequencing, and make a triangle out of them? Each type of digit gets its own line, except for the eye itself, that gets its own digit as well. If 257257 is the final set of numbers, we might be on to something:
the sequencing of the numerals is kind of interesting. The "eye of the pyramid" is a circle of 7s. This makes a 70 (you know, they love that number) with a 6 6 6 surrounding it, within/without. Also, as someone pointed out 2013 - 1977 = 36
Observations about the formation of the triangle:
- the top of the pyramid's first 3 lines adds up to 23. It's kind of its own pyramid/triangle.
- Add the 7s together (42) and subtract the 6 in the middle. That's 36.
- the sum of all values is 1
70
-take the sum of the values of the outside lines of the first "inner triangle" (the one with the 7s) - they add up to 70 if you count the 1 up top twice, or 69 if you don't. Both important numbers here.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:18 am
by tubolcane
2013 - 1977 = 36
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:19 am
by zeitgeist
tubolcane wrote:2013 - 1977 = 36
interesting

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:20 am
by Waterbagel
I am GENUINELY not convinced that what was played at Rough Trade is the NPR number.
It REALLY sounds like 255742 to me.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:26 am
by Magrathea
Waterbagel wrote:I am GENUINELY not convinced that what was played at Rough Trade is the NPR number.
It REALLY sounds like 255742 to me.
I shall reiterate:
http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.p ... 469#188469
For your reading pleasure

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:53 am
by Waterbagel
Heh, what with finals and work going on, I have only had the opportunity to keep up with this one thread..
I suppose all those things are true. I guess I just can't quite shake what I'm hearing. But, I'll have to go with it.
Now for that 5th slot..
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:14 am
by thepastinsidepressant
tubolcane wrote:2013 - 1977 = 36
i pointed that out like 5 days ago
seriously, and theres no harm but there has been an awful amount of overlapping
over the past week.
hex is relevant.
36 is relevant.
that feckin 5 note degraded reference to close encounters is 100% relevant and has been from
day 1, imo
i rest my case, you will see
as for cracking it, i don't know yet but i'm working on it, logically
1977 close encounters, first contact, mojave desert, espanóla lol