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ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:42 am
by re-phaelam-ed
ROYGBIV has been on youtube pretty much since inception....now its gone?! i didn't think WARP or the BoC cared.

...what does this mean?

this one had been there forever...

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:13 pm
by Najlepsiejszy
It's still there for me...

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:38 pm
by Negamuse
Me too. I've just spent 20 minutes playing the video on this page and the one in youtube and pausing the one then the other to try and get them lined up so they phase. Fuck me I'm bored.

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:07 pm
by drillkicker
Maybe it's just unavailbele in the US, because I can't see it either.

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:22 pm
by Jango9
Yeah, I can't see it either

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:35 pm
by mr3
It's more than just Roygbiv, it's a ton of BOC stuff on Youtube removed from at least US viewing. I'm even seeing Autechre stuff in the same boat now. Warp WTF? Why would they even bother?

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:52 pm
by Jango9
Doesn't bother me too much considering how I've got it all in my Winamp library, but this is still rather disconcerting on a larger scale.

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:38 pm
by ScienceGuy
It seems like it's just MHTRTC songs that have been blocked. You can still listen to them auto-generated #boardsofcanada youtube channel, but there are no videos, just static images of the album cover and some words on the side.

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:26 am
by Jango9
I can't get anything from Twoism either. I wonder if mdg's got any word on the matter?

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:26 am
by ScienceGuy
Just fyi, there's an auto-generated youtube account called "#boardsofcanada" (note the hashtag in front) that has all of BoC's officially released works on it. These videos serve as the source for YT's content ID system wrt BoC's music, so they'll never get taken down/blocked. That means peeps in the US can still listen to the songs on those videos. It still sucks, however, that the fanmade videos get taken down though :/

For example, here's Oirectine:

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:44 pm
by mr3
Organization makes sense there, good to know, but why is Warp having so many videos outside of those set to playable in some regions only? That feature is for controlling release of content on a region basis right? Even a possible reaction to the SC dump stuff going on doesn't explain it. Why would they bother basically region-locking videos about multiple artists on their label that have been on there for a good while now? Why even bother?

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:46 pm
by boxFACE
A lot of songs are being taken down for a lot of warp artists.

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:48 am
by Hell Oracle
It's due to the new YouTube subscription service, a lot of other labels content is being pulled. Supposedly you can get access back to them if you subscribe for a fee every month

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:25 pm
by mr3
Weird if that's it, you'd think those videos would get marked private like Youtube claimed they would, not region-locked. Ohh wait, that would be the easiest short-term way to start the rollout in the US only like they said.

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:03 am
by ScienceGuy
For those of you who'd like a more general understanding of what's going on, here's just one article that touches on what's happening: https://boingboing.net/2015/10/26/youtu ... -make.html

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:11 pm
by Echo the Sun
it's there for me. so i guess canada and the uk aren't affected

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:30 am
by ScienceGuy
It's not just Warp artists, the Beatles have had a lot of their songs blocked in the US too. God fucking dammit youtube.

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:42 am
by Jango9
Youtube's had a particularly aggressive system of blocking copyrighted music in Germany, from what I can tell they extended that to the United States. Also, the sponsored uploads have pretty much no search ranks whatsoever and get completely crushed by remixes and whatnot in the search results when trying to find the song. Quite frustrating. I very much doubt that Warp would even consider lifting a finger to do anything about this but I really would like them to. Seems to do nothing but reflect poorly on everyone involved.

Also, I still don't get why this only seems to affect songs from Twoism, Music Has The Right To Children, and Tomorrow's Harvest.

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:37 pm
by Jonse
Welp, there goes the one makeshift streaming service worth anything. Should have expected it after they started their own music streaming platform (a post in the angry rant thread or its own thread about this sort of thing is long overdue and shall be coming from me very soon).

If it's blocked on YouTube, you can't find a single upload of it and you needed YouTube to begin with for whatever reason, it's probably just to finally get around to either fetching a torrent or buying whatever it was. That is, if this becomes a worldwide thing in heavy effect.

There also presumably goes a whole lot of admirable content creators if that "must be in the ad-free pay zone" this is true. I know many people who fund their work and provide for themselves at least to some extent via YouTube and the ones I support cater to a group of people intelligent enough to get ad-block so it's of no consequence that they monetize their videos because they'll get enough ad revenue from their non-essential fanbase. If they now have to choose between doing this or getting anything at all, a lot of them will be losing their crowd, whether it be out of cost, principle, the mere fact that a transaction has to occur, etc...hopefully I misread that though skimming through it and someone here can correct me. Surely, I *cannot* have read that article correctly. This reads like one of many things that end up being rolled back almost immediately because everyone hates it. Microsoft-esque decision making or something.

Re: ROYGBIV stripped from the net?

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:52 am
by Cupz
Aren't you glad youtube isn't the only video-streaming site.