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Opothecary wrote:
I do hope that they can rediscover their joie de vivre through the eyes of their children in their future work, I know we'd all be grateful for that. I want to see them happy.

squid wrote:They got old and bitter?

Opothecary wrote:I think it's tough for them, the most basic way to look at it is that the world has become a very dark place over the past 15 years. Whether we are talking about world events, the way the media covers them, the rise of hate/ignorance based populism, and down to how the climate is changing and the fact that a number of species are dying off at an alarming rate because of those changes, anyone paying attention should find it a hard pill to swallow and should have no shortage of things to be frustrated or alarmed about. The media tries to instill fear and uncertainty in all of us, unfortunately there is plenty of both to go around even if you feel that the media carries an agenda.

Bringing it a little closer to them, the appeal of their art has always had a nod to the nostalgic no matter what they're doing. Whether you look at their original records, where they seem to recall a certain era where there was a lot of color, warmth and the fact that the "educational" content that we consumed as children had some element of education to it rather than distraction, which is what we have now. Do you see anyone making music in 20 years that teleports the next generation back to being in diapers and watching Peppa the Pig? I find it hard to wrap my head around. Nothing is memorable anymore, it's just there to keep kids quiet.

You look at TH and everything becomes a little darker and I can understand the parallels between our current time and the cold and clinical approach that the album takes at times. It's still unmistakably BoC, it's not the first time they've made an overtly dark album - Geogaddi mined paranoia, psychedelia and spirituality to get to those dark places, TH is rooted in cold, hard reality. It's less of a fantasy and I think the enjoyment of their art has always revolved around an escape of some kind. I think some people have a hard time when the art that they are relying on as an escape is tonally a little too close to what they are trying to escape from.

I do hope that they can rediscover their joie de vivre through the eyes of their children in their future work, I know we'd all be grateful for that. I want to see them happy.

Opothecary wrote:the world has become a very dark place over the past 15 years.

drillkicker wrote:The world is only a dark place if you choose to see it that way.

Gevel wrote:I get where you're coming from Opothecary, but you're being a bit too overly pessimistic and seeing things through an adult's cynical eyes. You really think kids all grown up 20 years from now will look back at the cartoons and stuff they grew up with and not feel nostalgia for it just because it's not the same stuff you grew up with? Heck, sometimes I see the stuff kid's have today and have to wonder how cool my childhood would have been growing up with it. A lot of it is memorable, maybe it just doesn't personally interest you is all.

Gevel wrote:And as far as the world having become dark only in the past 15 years (I'm assuming you mean since 9/11), the world has always been tough, we just have much much more access to news as it happens around the world, where as before you were limited to the next day's paper or seeing the 11 o' clock news.

Cupz wrote:They probably noticed the fanboyism on twoism.org.

Opothecary wrote: My point is that there's a new mentality of disposability to everything in our culture, and that includes how we consume our entertainment. Everything is on demand. When you were a kid, you had a certain number of toys, VHS tapes and video games. You learned to cherish each one and attach memories to them, my point is that the way consume media and enjoy things now is completely immemorable - how are you expected to become nostalgic about something that you only see or use once because there's 100 other things that you're just going to watch once? That's my real point. Nostalgia can only be associated with things that you're attached to via repetition and habit. Riding your bike, a certain movie, etc. No one wanders far from home on their bikes anymore and there's an embarrassment of content to sit on your couch and get fat watching.