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5d/Seven Forty Seven And Katz Theme Courage The Cowardly Dog

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:15 am
by boothtunes
A sleuthy youtube commenter pointed out this similarity of the iconic Courage antagonist's theme song and Seven Forty Seven:

Katz' Theme (listen for the hi hats):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2KnW19Tls

Seven Forty Seven (if you haven't heard it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLPaggvpkk

The episode of Courage this was in was S01E11, in 1999. Earliest known use of that hi hat sound and pattern is 2002 on their old website loops.

Clearly the exact same sounds, and i would argue a sample.

I'm wondering who sampled who:

#1. Courage episode predates the flash website BUT
#2. Courage's 1999 episode predates the BoC website and could have had access to unreleased bits (seems less likely)
#3. But at the website loops in the source code were (i assume) downloadable as separate layers, which isolate each element
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNYLmeAuocA at 0:29 (so you can hear just that drum track better) and boc could have easily isolated those hats and added the little kicks

OR did they both sampled the same source?

OR is it not even a sample and not just the same drum machine?

Re: 5d/Seven Forty Seven And Katz Theme Courage The Cowardly

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:34 pm
by Kreide
Sounds like the CR-78 to me.


Re: 5d/Seven Forty Seven And Katz Theme Courage The Cowardly

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:39 pm
by Geogandhi
Not to be rude but we as fans put too much thought into the mystique of what people like BoC and Aphex do and give them far too much credit. The reality is always far simpler. As the chap above says, it's simply a CR78 standard drum machine

Re: 5d/Seven Forty Seven And Katz Theme Courage The Cowardly

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:49 pm
by Flory
Geogandhi wrote:Not to be rude but we as fans put too much thought into the mystique of what people like BoC and Aphex do and give them far too much credit. The reality is always far simpler. As the chap above says, it's simply a CR78 standard drum machine
[media]https://archive.org/download/BocWebsite ... lia-05.mp3[/media] From the web loop archive. Its just a simple drum loop spliced then looped again.

Re: 5d/Seven Forty Seven And Katz Theme Courage The Cowardly

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:38 pm
by northernlite
regardless, that track from courage the cowardly dog is pretty damn nice

Re: 5d/Seven Forty Seven And Katz Theme Courage The Cowardly

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:32 pm
by Valotonin
Between us, regardless of whether this is related, I always had an underlying feeling that Hexagon Sun were at least somewhat involved in Cartoon Network's children's programming in the latter part of the '90s. There are certain aesthetic fingerprints there.

Re: 5d/Seven Forty Seven And Katz Theme Courage The Cowardly

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:05 pm
by Opothecary
We just had a thread talking about how Seven Forty Seven sounded like Lush's Never Never.

There's nothing new under the sun

Re: 5d/Seven Forty Seven And Katz Theme Courage The Cowardly

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:03 pm
by Valotonin
Opothecary wrote:We just had a thread talking about how Seven Forty Seven sounded like Lush's Never Never.

There's nothing new under the sun
Sample sources are discovered all of the time, though.
The Katz theme song just seems to be using the same analog drum machine with some fairly standard beats, but it is good to point it out anyway.