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Waco - 15 years on
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:14 am
by Dragon
The happenings between the Branch Davidians and the FBI ended 15 years ago today with tanks being crammed straight into the building. 80 Davidians, including Koresh himself, were killed.
Thoughts?
Re: Waco - 15 years on
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:36 pm
by streamrunner
Dragon wrote:The happenings between the Branch Davidians and the FBI ended 15 years ago today with tanks being crammed straight into the building. 80 Davidians, including Koresh himself, were killed.
Thoughts?
ummm. Police State?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:25 pm
by 747Music
nineteen sixty nine in the sunshine.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:53 pm
by CoBoC
747Music wrote:nineteen sixty nine in the sunshine.
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:01 pm
by thepastinsidepressant
ended 21 years ago today and today is also Record Store Day.
Number 21 anything to add? Its not 22 but...
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:14 pm
by Techboy
Does that mean RSD 2013 was the 20th anniversary of Waco? Huh - fancy that
Edit: oh original post says 20th here. Timezone thing. Nvm. D:
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:55 pm
by thepastinsidepressant
Techboy wrote:Does that mean RSD 2013 was the 20th anniversary of Waco? Huh - fancy that
Edit: oh original post says 20th here. Timezone thing. Nvm. D:
it ended on 19 April 1993 so yea RSD last year when they landed those promo 12s was in fact
the 20th anniversary, or no?
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:38 am
by Waterbagel
Really interesting time in Texas/American history. One of my more favorite sort of cult-like situations to read about. I don't know what's so interesting about it, but every time a documentary comes on about it or I happen across an article, I can't help but read it.
EDIT: may be a combination of BoC and my born-'n-raised Texas upbringing!
Re: Waco - 15 years on
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:38 pm
by BrunchTime
streamrunner wrote:Dragon wrote:The happenings between the Branch Davidians and the FBI ended 15 years ago today with tanks being crammed straight into the building. 80 Davidians, including Koresh himself, were killed.
Thoughts?
ummm. Police State?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:31 pm
by Iced Cooly Beatnik
David Koresh is one of those figures with whom I can't tell if he was crazy, using this for personal gain or both (à la Jim Jones). Saying (since he was the messiah) he had the sacred semen is either him being batshit insane or taking advantage of all those women who shagged him because of this.
This was on Channel 4 seven years ago, a very interesting documentary about it. The reconstructions are a bit eerie to watch, especially as the actor playing Koresh looks so much like him.
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:13 pm
by BrunchTime
Iced Cooly Beatnik wrote:David Koresh is one of those figures with whom I can't tell if he was crazy, using this for personal gain or both (à la Jim Jones). Saying (since he was the messiah) he had the sacred semen is either him being batshit insane or taking advantage of all those women who shagged him because of this.
This was on Channel 4 seven years ago, a very interesting documentary about it. The reconstructions are a bit eerie to watch, especially as the actor playing Koresh looks so much like him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wUucANBY_8
I'd highly recommend this doc. It's by Linda Thompson, the voice from Split Your Infinities. Really interesting stuff, especially the team of four agents' ingress from the roof, and the potential sources of the fire.
In the end, it was much more a gun issue than an issue of "protecting the children." You know what's good for kids? Sleep deprivation, driving around the compound playing the sounds of animals dying, and burning them alive.
Re: Waco - 15 years on
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:14 am
by thepastinsidepressant
i saw this on the Facebook page of Experimental Jetset, a design group in Holland. Something from 1994?
https://www.facebook.com/Experimental-J ... /timeline/They said "Floppy disk that was once given to us by an actual reverend of the Church of the SubGenius, while we were hanging out at De Melkweg in Amsterdam – back in 1994 or so. We could tell you what's on the disk – but then we would have to kill you!"
Re: Waco - 15 years on
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:27 pm
by valleaux
thepastinsidepressant wrote:i saw this on the Facebook page of Experimental Jetset, a design group in Holland. Something from 1994?
https://www.facebook.com/Experimental-J ... /timeline/They said "Floppy disk that was once given to us by an actual reverend of the Church of the SubGenius, while we were hanging out at De Melkweg in Amsterdam – back in 1994 or so. We could tell you what's on the disk – but then we would have to kill you!"
Interesting...
Re:
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:14 am
by drillkicker
thepastinsidepressant wrote:Techboy wrote:Does that mean RSD 2013 was the 20th anniversary of Waco? Huh - fancy that
Edit: oh original post says 20th here. Timezone thing. Nvm. D:
it ended on 19 April 1993 so yea RSD last year when they landed those promo 12s was in fact
the 20th anniversary, or no?
I'm late as fuck, but RSD 2013 was on the 20th, not the 19th. It isn't the same date every year, it's like Easter or the Super Bowl.
Re: Waco - 15 years on
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:59 am
by pianoforte
thepastinsidepressant wrote:i saw this on the Facebook page of Experimental Jetset, a design group in Holland. Something from 1994?
https://www.facebook.com/Experimental-J ... /timeline/They said "Floppy disk that was once given to us by an actual reverend of the Church of the SubGenius, while we were hanging out at De Melkweg in Amsterdam – back in 1994 or so. We could tell you what's on the disk – but then we would have to kill you!"
VERY interesting. Can't imagine what could be on that... hm...
On a related note:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ1b-PHdFZUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABiCv_KP1BA
Re: Waco - 15 years on
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:48 am
by 747Music
Random thought: A childhood friend of mine's step-father used to be a branch davidian. He moved to Ontario before the Waco incident happened though. I remember after the Waco incident hit the news thinking I'm sure glad he's here and is ok. Unfortunately, a few years or so later he got hepatitis and passed away. (or maybe it was liver cancer, I don't remember) After that, my friend and his mother moved away. I never saw him again. Sometimes, when I hear about Waco or the branch davidians, even in songs like 1969 and such, I wonder how he's doing, and what he looks like now. stuff like that. For the life of me, I can't remember his last name or I would've looked him up long ago on social media. It was a long time ago, but it's not like I'm an old man or anything. Oh well. I'm sure, like me, he's moved on long ago.