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Gnosticism and BoC

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:17 pm
by saturdayindex
I've studied BoC for quite a while now and I've come to the conclusion that they are most likely gnostics of the esoteric vein. I came to this conclusion based upon the nature of the religious/spiritual metaphors within their lyrics and music and their intercorrelations, &c, &c. Essentially, I think BOC are too spiritual to be atheists, yet too intelligent to subscribe to a dogmatic faith. And I believe this shows in their music. Anyone else sort of noticed this? Anyone else at all here even know about gnosticism?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:32 pm
by turquoise70
yeahhhhh...i dunno. if they are gnostics, i bet they don't call themselves that.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:27 pm
by isawdrones
they read krishnamurti

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:25 pm
by saturdayindex
isawdrones wrote:they read krishnamurti
Interesting, how did you find this out?
turquoise70 wrote:yeahhhhh...i dunno. if they are gnostics, i bet they don't call themselves that.
I've never seen them mention it anywhere. Then again, being gnostic isn't something you're going to run around and tell people, "I'm gnostic! I'm gnostic!" It's more a of a way of looking at the world, a conglomeration of beliefs, and less a strict label.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:16 am
by 88marquis
My guess is they grew up with religious parents, and were only sort of taught those beliefs, and I'm also assuming they don't practice it at all. I can't tell you exactly why I picture that except for the fact they incorporate bits of their childhood in their music.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:01 am
by CoBoC
Who says atheists aren't spiritual? :?

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:07 pm
by streamrunner
they know what they are doing.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:19 pm
by john fonda
no way to ever know, unless they start doin interviews...

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:37 pm
by Totopatter
what's so controversial about calling yourself a gnostic especially when you make music that is equally controversial?

I like to call myself a spiritual cognostic :D

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:38 pm
by turquoise70
streamrunner wrote:they know what they are doing.
they know what they doing (take off every zig).

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:36 pm
by Skytree
In their interviews, their general sentiment regarding religion and spirituality seems mostly be one of intellectual curiosity or psychology, at least in how it's used in their music. Religion in general says a great deal about how our minds and societies work, etc.

But, from personal experience, I believe those that have a fascination with math(s), nature, art and history often tend to follow a fairly specific spiritual vein: too rational to fall into an organized religion, but too immersed in the stuff of life to see it as fatalistic or meaningless.

I don't like to speculate about people I don't know, but my guess is that the BoC lads would fall into that category.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:44 pm
by turquoise70
Skytree wrote:I don't like to speculate about people I don't know
GET OUT OF HERE RIGHT NOW.

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:24 am
by 88marquis
Is anyone here strict about their religion (if they are religious) ? I can't picture a boards fan being a dedicated religious person.

Sorry if that was a stupid question, I'm just curious about these things.

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:51 am
by turquoise70
I'm not religious, but I'm not strict about my nonreligion. Life is for learning, not deciding you have got the answer and coasting to the grave with it.

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:59 am
by Skytree
turquoise70 wrote:
Skytree wrote:I don't like to speculate about people I don't know
GET OUT OF HERE RIGHT NOW.
Internet police!


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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:33 am
by Shadowshocker
Haha :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:57 am
by saturdayindex
Totopatter wrote: I like to call myself a spiritual cognostic :D
I like it.
CoBoC wrote:Who says atheists aren't spiritual? :?
Point taken.


And skytree... I just threw up in my mouth.

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:11 am
by bleak.
Skytree wrote:
turquoise70 wrote:
Skytree wrote:I don't like to speculate about people I don't know
GET OUT OF HERE RIGHT NOW.
Internet police!


Image
haha! :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:22 am
by Archrival
Skytree wrote:In their interviews, their general sentiment regarding religion and spirituality seems mostly be one of intellectual curiosity or psychology, at least in how it's used in their music. Religion in general says a great deal about how our minds and societies work, etc.

But, from personal experience, I believe those that have a fascination with math(s), nature, art and history often tend to follow a fairly specific spiritual vein: too rational to fall into an organized religion, but too immersed in the stuff of life to see it as fatalistic or meaningless.

I don't like to speculate about people I don't know, but my guess is that the BoC lads would fall into that category.
Extremly well said!

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:10 pm
by BunnyRabbit
CoBoC wrote:Who says atheists aren't spiritual? :?
Me.

Well, sort of.

I'm atheist as in I don't recognise the necessity of there being a god - logically speaking.

But more generally I don't feel the need for any kind of explanation outside of deductive reasoning.

If you say you're atheist I see it has quite a hard-line position - the Dawkins position - not something you can pick and choose on. Otherwise you're agnostic.

BOC I think are, at least, interested in the spiritual life. I wouldn't go any further.