Gaddafi dead
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:31 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:02 pm
I just saw this.. sitting in a cafe perusing the news. Not surprised it ended this way. When your people have turned against you and have guns this is typically the way it goes.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:17 pm
Still, for me it would have been preferable that he was just captured and brought to justice. No matter how evil he was, I think it's always better to prosecute a person rather than killing him without a process. Perhaps even more so for logical rather than plain ethical reasons; just like with the execution of Bin Laden, once you start killing people who are unanimously deemed exceedingly evil and criminal, you're simply transcending the jurisdiction that is supposed to give everyone a fair trial and breaking the logic on which it was founded. That is just my personal, idealistic opinion although I understand that events like these happen in the heat of the moment and his execution might not even have been intentional (I only read the headlines about this, I'm ignorant).machinea wrote:I just saw this.. sitting in a cafe perusing the news. Not surprised it ended this way. When your people have turned against you and have guns this is typically the way it goes.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:09 pm
Guido wrote: Still, for me it would have been preferable that he was just captured and brought to justice. No matter how evil he was, I think it's always better to prosecute a person rather than killing him without a process.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:15 pm
But he was armed!
I agree with you there Guido, however the Christians didn't get to him first. If a EUR/AMER officer had found him before the insane he may have been placed on some kind of international trial, followed by a gruesome televised execution.
The world is so great. I can't wait until all the stinkers get chased out of Africa, which is next. The merc resistance are still in the theater, are they getting swooped up at the borders?
I agree with you there Guido, however the Christians didn't get to him first. If a EUR/AMER officer had found him before the insane he may have been placed on some kind of international trial, followed by a gruesome televised execution.
The world is so great. I can't wait until all the stinkers get chased out of Africa, which is next. The merc resistance are still in the theater, are they getting swooped up at the borders?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:30 pm
yeah but do they even live in a country with real due process? I'm serious, I have no idea how their justice system truly operates except that it is under Sharia Law. If you preside in a country without a legal system that can be somewhat depended upon to be fair and impartial (as if anything exists in the world but at least some make an effort) I don't imagine one can be expected to get such a thing once captured. Live by Sharia Law die by Sharia Law I guess. He ascended to power via a coup its not exactly unfitting that he dies the way he did. I don't mean to sound unsympathetic. I'm just saying that none of this is surprising in the least.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:16 pm
Nothing I can really add to the sentiments already conveyed.
I saw the video they just released. What a bloodbath. I'm happy he's been stopped, but I'm not happy about the death glorification. Mobs of people acting as though killing someone is cause for Mardi Gras is just morbid to me.
I saw the video they just released. What a bloodbath. I'm happy he's been stopped, but I'm not happy about the death glorification. Mobs of people acting as though killing someone is cause for Mardi Gras is just morbid to me.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:28 pm
machinea wrote:yeah but do they even live in a country with real due process? I'm serious, I have no idea how their justice system truly operates except that it is under Sharia Law. If you preside in a country without a legal system that can be somewhat depended upon to be fair and impartial (as if anything exists in the world but at least some make an effort) I don't imagine one can be expected to get such a thing once captured. Live by Sharia Law die by Sharia Law I guess. He ascended to power via a coup its not exactly unfitting that he dies the way he did. I don't mean to sound unsympathetic. I'm just saying that none of this is surprising in the least.
NATO must have been rolling their eyes into the backs of their skulls the entire time.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:26 pm
So which insane dictator is next on the list? Gotta spread that freedom and democracy!
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:05 pm
Assad, then Ahmadinejad.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:09 pm
mechanismj wrote:So which insane dictator is next on the list? Gotta spread that freedom and democracy!
I personally would like for it to be the entire United States government from the senate on up.
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:03 am
i'm not quite as fervent as that, but it'd be nice of the message (at least, what i THINK the message is to be) of OWS would be able to get the public a little bit better; that is, that it'd be nice if there wasn't so much lobbying, self-interest, and corruption in american politics.Rodheh wrote:mechanismj wrote:So which insane dictator is next on the list? Gotta spread that freedom and democracy!
I personally would like for it to be the entire United States government from the senate on up.
or any politics for that matter.
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:03 am
Kim Jong Il represents the most danger currently, if those nuclear tests were actually nuclear.
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:45 pm
He's safe as houses. No oil.fujee wrote:Kim Jong Il represents the most danger currently, if those nuclear tests were actually nuclear.
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:30 pm
Agree.turquoise70 wrote:Nothing I can really add to the sentiments already conveyed.
I saw the video they just released. What a bloodbath. I'm happy he's been stopped, but I'm not happy about the death glorification. Mobs of people acting as though killing someone is cause for Mardi Gras is just morbid to me.
The way many newspapers posted pictures of him lynched and dead without a second thought was indecent.
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:42 pm
I think it's all an act to begin with, but I find it interesting that TPTB think we are 'mature' enough to view gadaffi's body, but not osama's.
scene two....
scene two....
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:57 pm
Whichever empire gains all the world's resources wins the game of Monopoloy!Mexicola wrote:He's safe as houses. No oil.fujee wrote:Kim Jong Il represents the most danger currently, if those nuclear tests were actually nuclear.
Also, I know Chavez was a big deal for a while, but things have been pretty quiet down there lately.
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:59 pm
This. The Chinese were all over Libya taking their oil until Gaddafi became Public Enemy #1 a few months back. Now they're out and the West is in. Fill up yer tanks!Mexicola wrote:He's safe as houses. No oil.fujee wrote:Kim Jong Il represents the most danger currently, if those nuclear tests were actually nuclear.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:03 pm
Pakistan comes to mind...mechanismj wrote:So which insane dictator is next on the list? Gotta spread that freedom and democracy!
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:35 pm
lolmechanismj wrote:Whichever empire gains all the world's resources wins the game of Monopoloy!Mexicola wrote:He's safe as houses. No oil.fujee wrote:Kim Jong Il represents the most danger currently, if those nuclear tests were actually nuclear.
The Congoloids could use a supermarket sweep.
http://abesha.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/ ... dictators/
note: 2008 list