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Kepler 22-b

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:37 pm
by noshferatu
for those with an interest in astronomy and do not already know, the first earth like planet has been confirmed by NASA.

Re: Kepler 22-b

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:50 pm
by Jonse
noshferatu wrote:for those with an interest in astronomy and do not already know, the first earth like planet has been confirmed by NASA.
Pretty sure there's been a couple before, but this is pretty close.


22 Celsius is perfectly habitable and 2.6 times the mass of Earth, while probably being difficult to get used to at first, would be fine after a while because the inhabitants would eventually bulk up and become stronger until it feels earth-like resistance wise(they'd still probably fall a lot faster though).


The main problem, other than the obvious distance, is that a planet like that given the circumstances that we know as a fact sustains life here probably already has a bunch of species there. If we were to get there, we may find there's no sentient life, but after the time it would take, I wouldn't count on it.


Assuming space colonization becomes completely easy someday in the future with warp speed capable vehicles and whatnot, my feelings on it would be that if we show up at a planet that has civilization already existing on it, we should not enact an occupation of it. Planets with only small fauna/flora of prehistoric-level evolution would probably be best to colonize.


Anyways, I'm drifting into an unrelated area of sorts, so I'll just say K22B is interesting.

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:02 pm
by mechanismj
Never violate the prime directive.

Re: Kepler 22-b

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:04 pm
by Waterbagel
Rodheh wrote: Planets with only small fauna/flora of prehistoric-level evolution would probably be best to colonize.
agreed. focus could be put mainly on introducing the more beneficial/necessary ones from Earth so that k-22b could really be colonized

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:36 pm
by noshferatu
thanks Rodheh for that reply i always enjoy hearing peoples ramblings on space and the like. hopefully they are firing some signals kepler 22 way at the moment. i really wish to see communication with extraterrestrials ,thats if you dont count the WOW signal. luckly if you go by the drake equation it dosent seem a total impossibility so fingers crossed

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:49 pm
by Mexicola
The first images just came through via Hubble. Disappointing and inevitable....























Image

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:45 pm
by mechanismj
Haha... that would make sense.

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:06 pm
by fujee
Maybe could've put this in the Space thread but no worries :)

What the drake equation doesn't tell you about is the chances of finding intelligent life. Sure there could be millions of extra terrestrial species out there, but none capable of communicating with earth :(
Even if we could travel light speed, these distances are still far to vast for us to seriously consider reaching them in the near future. Certainly an exciting and interesting find though, no doubt about that.

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:14 pm
by mechanismj
fujee wrote:Maybe could've put this in the Space thread but no worries :)

What the drake equation doesn't tell you about is the chances of finding intelligent life. Sure there could be millions of extra terrestrial species out there, but none capable of communicating with earth :(
Even if we could travel light speed, these distances are still far to vast for us to seriously consider reaching them in the near future. Certainly an exciting and interesting find though, no doubt about that.
One step closer at the least.

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:32 pm
by BZ822-XSN-7
Mexicola wrote:The first images just came through via Hubble. Disappointing and inevitable....























Image
Salamandrous reasoning

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:28 pm
by fujee
mechanismj wrote:
fujee wrote:Maybe could've put this in the Space thread but no worries :)

What the drake equation doesn't tell you about is the chances of finding intelligent life. Sure there could be millions of extra terrestrial species out there, but none capable of communicating with earth :(
Even if we could travel light speed, these distances are still far to vast for us to seriously consider reaching them in the near future. Certainly an exciting and interesting find though, no doubt about that.
One step closer at the least.
Indeed :) sorry if my post was a bit pessimistic - readin it back, it looks a bit defeatist!

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:33 pm
by mechanismj
fujee wrote:
mechanismj wrote:
fujee wrote:Maybe could've put this in the Space thread but no worries :)

What the drake equation doesn't tell you about is the chances of finding intelligent life. Sure there could be millions of extra terrestrial species out there, but none capable of communicating with earth :(
Even if we could travel light speed, these distances are still far to vast for us to seriously consider reaching them in the near future. Certainly an exciting and interesting find though, no doubt about that.
One step closer at the least.
Indeed :) sorry if my post was a bit pessimistic - readin it back, it looks a bit defeatist!
Nah. I was listening to a radio show last night that slammed the whole idea of them telling us stuff like this. He made some good points though. When they tell people stuff like this, they give you a made up picture and tell you it's a Goldilocks planet with the possibility for harboring life. Let's not forget that within the last 3 months they've made several reports that show they can't even track their own satellites, near earth objects, and have stated through the white house that there is no life out there at all. So, who or what are you supposed to believe?

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:12 pm
by fujee
Your better judgement is probably the best bet.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:57 am
by mechanismj
fujee wrote:Your better judgement is probably the best bet.
Meanwhile, this happens and nothing gets reported.



You can ignore the commentary...

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:21 pm
by fujee
Solar wind?

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:56 pm
by mechanismj
fujee wrote:Solar wind?
They're making a big deal out of the random blotch that appears next to Mercury.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:22 pm
by noshferatu
its the nazi bell

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:29 pm
by fujee
mechanismj wrote:
fujee wrote:Solar wind?
They're making a big deal out of the random blotch that appears next to Mercury.
Oh good, I thought you were agreeing with this person that an Alien spaceship was near mercury.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:06 pm
by mechanismj
fujee wrote:
mechanismj wrote:
fujee wrote:Solar wind?
They're making a big deal out of the random blotch that appears next to Mercury.
Oh good, I thought you were agreeing with this person that an Alien spaceship was near mercury.
They already landed here last night and took me aboard. We had a pot luck dinner.

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:36 pm
by fujee
mechanismj wrote:
fujee wrote:
mechanismj wrote: They're making a big deal out of the random blotch that appears next to Mercury.
Oh good, I thought you were agreeing with this person that an Alien spaceship was near mercury.
They already landed here last night and took me aboard. We had a pot luck dinner.
Do you get HBO on that spaceship?