So just to clarify on some fakes...?

sithlord999 · Post by **sithlord999** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:42 pm

Ah, okay. I thought something wasn't right about them....Especially the one for Focus on the Spiral. Thanks for clearing that up.

The excerpts of Duffy, Wouldn't You Like to be Free, and Circle are real though, right? Bocpages still says they're genuine.

Geogaddi · Post by **Geogaddi** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:11 am

Could someone help confirming whether this vinyl is a fake or not?

It's from "2007 - Unreleased Tracks"
info here:
http://bocpages.org/wiki/Unreleased_Tracks

imo it's a self-made vinyl.

Snufkin · Post by **Snufkin** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:30 am

Geogaddi wrote:Could someone help confirming whether this vinyl is a fake or not?

It's from "2007 - Unreleased Tracks"
info here:
http://bocpages.org/wiki/Unreleased_Tracks

imo it's a self-made vinyl.

Well, the tracks aren't fake - but I think the vinyl is a bootleg

-Snuf

Saakki · Post by **Saakki** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:42 am

Snufkin wrote:
Geogaddi wrote:Could someone help confirming whether this vinyl is a fake or not?

It's from "2007 - Unreleased Tracks"
info here:
http://bocpages.org/wiki/Unreleased_Tracks

imo it's a self-made vinyl.
Well, the tracks aren't fake - but I think the vinyl is a bootleg

-Snuf

So they are selling bootlegs in discogs?

http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?label= ... a%29&ev=lb

Worth a buy

Snufkin · Post by **Snufkin** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:28 pm

Saakki wrote:
Snufkin wrote:
Geogaddi wrote:Could someone help confirming whether this vinyl is a fake or not?

It's from "2007 - Unreleased Tracks"
info here:
http://bocpages.org/wiki/Unreleased_Tracks

imo it's a self-made vinyl.
Well, the tracks aren't fake - but I think the vinyl is a bootleg

-Snuf
So they are selling bootlegs in discogs?

http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?label= ... a%29&ev=lb

Worth a buy

I've got a copy. Sound quality isn't the best but it's worth it IMO

-Snuf

Saakki · Post by **Saakki** » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:45 pm

Thanks for the info Snuf! 10 e not that bad imo..

Waterbagel · Post by **Waterbagel** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:22 am

sithlord999 wrote:Ah, okay. I thought something wasn't right about them....Especially the one for Focus on the Spiral. Thanks for clearing that up.

The excerpts of Duffy, Wouldn't You Like to be Free, and Circle are real though, right? Bocpages still says they're genuine.

two things:
1. holy hell, it's you, sithlord!

2. always good to get these things figured out, wot wot

sithlord999 · Post by **sithlord999** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:52 am

Oh, hey! I remember you. haha

Sorry, I'm going off topic.

Julian Candy · Post by **Julian Candy** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:29 am

23degreesdream wrote:
audiotrack wrote:i recon most of the 35 track random tape material is from the pre-twoism releases such as closes, hooper bay, play by numbers, acid memories. we just dont know which is which. if that is really '5d' from closes then thats cool...
I've wondered this - i don't suppose anyone has tried to tie up the track times between early release and Random tape for any similarities? (I think the answer to that is probably 'yes, and nothing matched')

I actually compared the track lengths of the 35 tape to the times of other pre-twoism albums given by bocpages and I actually did come up with something.

The closest matches I found were Close1=AT04, Godever=AT09, Powerline=AT31/AT16 Side B

Probably doesn't mean jack shit but what the heck.

Moebius · Post by **Moebius** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:14 am

Julian Candy wrote:
23degreesdream wrote:
audiotrack wrote:i recon most of the 35 track random tape material is from the pre-twoism releases such as closes, hooper bay, play by numbers, acid memories. we just dont know which is which. if that is really '5d' from closes then thats cool...
I've wondered this - i don't suppose anyone has tried to tie up the track times between early release and Random tape for any similarities? (I think the answer to that is probably 'yes, and nothing matched')
I actually compared the track lengths of the 35 tape to the times of other pre-twoism albums given by bocpages and I actually did come up with something.

The closest matches I found were Close1=AT04, Godever=AT09, Powerline=AT31/AT16 Side B

Probably doesn't mean jack shit but what the heck.

As he says, a few random correlations happen by coincidence but there's no meaningful correspondence.

audiotrack · Post by **audiotrack** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:18 am

mdg could have discounted any theories but never has which makes me think they probably are related to the pre-twoism material. or maybe he just prefers it that nobody else knows.

rdy2bz · Post by **rdy2bz** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:29 am

audiotrack wrote:mdg could have discounted any theories but never has which makes me think they probably are related to the pre-twoism material. or maybe he just prefers it that nobody else knows.

He could tell us the real trackname, that would clarifiy the theories. He confiremd it's boc, and from an old post we all know that boc does not like their music presented mislabeled. So?

Elephant Face · Post by **Elephant Face** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:34 pm

Surprised no one has mentioned Seven Forty Seven as solid proof of this tracks legitimacy.

franton · Post by **franton** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:34 pm

Elephant Face wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned Seven Forty Seven as solid proof of this tracks legitimacy.

That's because you just beat me to it

It's the main riff from Seven Forty Seven, but slowed / pitched down and with a different drum beat + background effects. Eerily different, yet similar.

esselfortium · Post by **esselfortium** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:38 pm

Elephant Face wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned Seven Forty Seven as solid proof of this tracks legitimacy.

Wait, proof of which track's legitimacy?

franton · Post by **franton** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:39 pm

iec · Post by **iec** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:40 pm

franton wrote:5D

The track is real, but we're not sure of the name. Someone re-used some of the tracks from the (legitimate) Old Tunes tapes (for which most of the actual track titles are unknown - they remain untitled), to populate fake downloads of the legendary "older releases" (in this case, Closes Vol. 1).

read this, especially the preface.

2020k · Post by **2020k** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:02 pm

Hello, first time poster here! Just want to make sure nothing has changed since this post happened. Downloaded supposed BoC Maxima & Closes Vol. 1 recently and am unsure as to which tracks are real and which ones are fake? I've done some googling and there are a couple people around the internets that claim they're all real now, with BoCpages saying the bulk is fake.

My Downloads w/ track lengths:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7476 ... 6at123.png
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7476/s ... 6at123.png

To my understanding from BoCpages, BoC Maxima is real, Closes Vol. 1 is not. At all.

Any truth?

Julian Candy · Post by **Julian Candy** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:51 pm

2020k wrote:Hello, first time poster here! Just want to make sure nothing has changed since this post happened. Downloaded supposed BoC Maxima & Closes Vol. 1 recently and am unsure as to which tracks are real and which ones are fake? I've done some googling and there are a couple people around the internets that claim they're all real now, with BoCpages saying the bulk is fake.

My Downloads w/ track lengths:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7476 ... 6at123.png
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7476/s ... 6at123.png

To my understanding from BoCpages, BoC Maxima is real, Closes Vol. 1 is not. At all.

Any truth?

I'm pretty sure any pre-twoism download that's not AFOT,BoC Maxima, Old tunes, or the 35 tracks tape is going to be fake.

The BoC Maxima you have is the same as mine, it's real but I think Rodox video is only supposed to be 33 seconds long, but I guess that doesn't really matter. It also appears that you have the problem where Skimming Stones repeats itself on Niagara and plays again on it's own track.

23degreesdream · Post by **23degreesdream** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:16 pm

2020k wrote:Hello, first time poster here! Just want to make sure nothing has changed since this post happened. Downloaded supposed BoC Maxima & Closes Vol. 1 recently and am unsure as to which tracks are real and which ones are fake? I've done some googling and there are a couple people around the internets that claim they're all real now, with BoCpages saying the bulk is fake.

My Downloads w/ track lengths:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7476 ... 6at123.png
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7476/s ... 6at123.png

To my understanding from BoCpages, BoC Maxima is real, Closes Vol. 1 is not. At all.

Any truth?

boc maxima is all real. Your Closes is a mixture of genuine old tracks - apart from
Track 6 is Kidsfortoday by davefrom2001
Track 8 - a remix of Trails (old website track)
Track 14 - a fan cover of Roybgiv