GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Saakki · Post by **Saakki** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:06 pm

Propane propaaaaneee....the album is gonna buuurrnn...

turquoise70 · Post by **turquoise70** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:52 pm

Saakki wrote:Propane and propane accessories

nightGoat · Post by **nightGoat** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:48 am

i tell ya what.

Waterbagel · Post by **Waterbagel** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:11 am

While I do love King of the Hill, for the sake of the thread, I shall refrain

in the meantime

i honestly have no idea what their next "sound" is going to be.
i know it's all related, but it's obvious each album has its own sound.
i just have NO idea what to expect.

bleak. · Post by **bleak.** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:10 am

i sure hope they become as active with their releases as autechre.

krs · Post by **krs** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:20 am

Waterbagel wrote:While I do love King of the Hill, for the sake of the thread, I shall refrain

And here I was thinking it was a reference to Trailer Park Boys...

dp · Post by dp » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:40 am

bleak. wrote:i sure hope they become as active with their releases as autechre.

shit, at this point I'd settle for a low-quality, unlabeled MP3, with just a 30 second snippet of a new song.

The Friendly Stranger · Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:54 pm

SonicDimension wrote:
The Friendly Stranger wrote:
SonicDimension wrote:Wow, some people need to pull their heads out of their asses and take a look around.

Christ, some people are fucking dense.
Try taking your own advice. You're not half as smart as you appear to think you are.
How would you know? And I never said I was 'smart,' anyway. I'm sorry if I flipped out a bit there, but I get really ticked by people who think they are 'cool' for not caring about the overall trajectory of our society. Apathy is not cool.

I just take offence with your general tone. You are very condescending and rude. We don't come here to be lectured regardless of your credentials. And I think you've got this all wrong if you believe people here think it's 'cool' to 'not care about the general trajectory of our society.' In the 3 years I've been on this forum, not once have I got that impression from anyone.

Saakki · Post by **Saakki** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:47 pm

krs wrote:
Waterbagel wrote:While I do love King of the Hill, for the sake of the thread, I shall refrain
And here I was thinking it was a reference to Trailer Park Boys...

Propane propaneee..time to start the gameee

krs · Post by **krs** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:57 pm

Saakki wrote:
krs wrote:
Waterbagel wrote:While I do love King of the Hill, for the sake of the thread, I shall refrain
And here I was thinking it was a reference to Trailer Park Boys...
Propane propaneee..time to start the gameee

"MR. LAHEY, YOU'RE PEEIN' YOURSELF!"

dono · Post by **dono** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:08 pm

The Friendly Stranger wrote:I just take offence with your general tone. You are very condescending and rude. We don't come here to be lectured regardless of your credentials. And I think you've got this all wrong if you believe people here think it's 'cool' to 'not care about the general trajectory of our society.' In the 3 years I've been on this forum, not once have I got that impression from anyone.

+ 1

SonicDimension · Post by **SonicDimension** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:58 pm

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turquoise70 · Post by **turquoise70** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:20 pm

Epiphany 1: not everyone agrees with you about the apocalypse, the nature of and status of our society, or your bleak attitude toward the world in general.

Epiphany 2: this doesn't mean they're stupid.

You'd do well to find a forum more suited for that kind of proselytizing than here. Many people here share some of your views, but they have the decency to express themselves without vitriol and condescension. Hell, I share one or two of your views, but I'm not about to help you expound upon them with the way you like to browbeat people.

All I was saying is I think the apocalypse paranoia is the manifestation of the current cultural anxiety and not an actual precipitating event or series of events. People are scared, the idea that things are all falling apart explains what they're experiencing and gives them a sense of comfort - a direction to run in. That's my take on the issue. If you want to call me 'fucking dense' and an 'ignorant bourgeoisie' go right ahead, I think you'll find absolutely no-one else here to be in support of those assertions.

In fact, I wasn't even making a point of THAT - all I was really saying was that BoC indicated a desire not to let current cultural events trap their music into a narrow "of the now" category in one of their interviews. That's seriously the only point I was trying to make. But hey, what do I know, I'm a white guy from America! I'll just get washed away by the righteous cleansing waters of cosmic justice for my sins of driving a car and earning money, then you'll be happy and you can go live naked in the woods and dance with bears or whatever.

The Friendly Stranger · Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:29 pm

SonicDimension wrote:A couple of people seemed to be implying that making a record with any reference to apocalypse would automatically be lame and disappointing-- as if the apocalypse were just the latest trend and it has no larger cultural significance worth addressing in art.

No, I just saw a few people express their personal viewpoint that they would rather BoC made an album which didn't focus on this theme.

SonicDimension wrote:Do you really think people would be obsessed with the Mayan calendar, survivalism, and other such nonsense if our culture were totally stable and nowhere near collapsing?

Yes, because people love this kind of drama and fantasy as it helps them to remove themselves from the painful reality that their lives are incredibly boring.

SonicDimension wrote:Who knows where BoC will go next, but I will not be surprised if we do end up hearing a darker record that is influenced by the general mood of the last several years (including the obsession with apocalpyse).

I agree, but I don't think that those who don't want to see these themes in a new BoC album are automatically ignorant people who don't care about the future of the human race.

The Friendly Stranger · Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:34 pm

Please watch this. It's a simple explanation of exactly why you shouldn't buy into any of this sensationalist bullshit.

SonicDimension · Post by **SonicDimension** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:09 pm

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SonicDimension · Post by **SonicDimension** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:24 pm

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The Friendly Stranger · Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:38 pm

SonicDimension wrote:
The Friendly Stranger wrote:Please watch this. It's a simple explanation of exactly why you shouldn't buy into any of this sensationalist bullshit.
Or maybe it's a simple explanation of why you don't have to consider other peoples' ideas so that you can continue to feel comfortable and safe. Besides, I don't pay attention to the mainstream news media. I get my information from the source. So tell me, are academic and professional journals filled with 'sensationalist bullshit' research?

That is quite believable, yes. Journals are often written to prove a particular theory and research can be carefully selected and manipulated to support that one particular theory. Do you honestly believe that all journals and research papers written on this subject support this one viewpoint? Reading up on a subject doesn't make you 'right', especially when you have such heavy bias towards one line of reasoning.

SonicDimension · Post by **SonicDimension** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:07 am

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The Friendly Stranger · Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:35 am

SonicDimension wrote:
The Friendly Stranger wrote:
SonicDimension wrote: Or maybe it's a simple explanation of why you don't have to consider other peoples' ideas so that you can continue to feel comfortable and safe. Besides, I don't pay attention to the mainstream news media. I get my information from the source. So tell me, are academic and professional journals filled with 'sensationalist bullshit' research?
That is quite believable, yes. Journals are often written to prove a particular theory and research can be carefully selected and manipulated to support that one particular theory. Do you honestly believe that all journals and research papers written on this subject support this one viewpoint? Reading up on a subject doesn't make you 'right', especially when you have such heavy bias towards line of reasoning.
Actually most research journals (and the scientific method itself) have very rigorous methods for weeding out individual biases and crank theories. It's true that these publications promote certain cultural biases, such as the belief that the scientific method and deductive logic are the best ways to study various problems, but I doubt that you take issue with that.

To go from studying these problems in a disinterested, academic manner to taking a political/ideological position does require some meta-analysis which is likely to involve one's subjective experiences and interpretations of events, but whatever conclusions you reach, the facts remain the same. Thinking happy thoughts and proceeding with business as usual will not make our problems evaporate.

Look, I'm not going to get sucked into a 'last word' battle with you, I didn't even want to debate this with you in the first place. I'm just not interested, not in this issue but in debating it with you or anyone else for that matter. You're clearly better informed than I am but that's certainly no reason for me to blindly accept what you're saying because as you said yourself our viewpoints can be partially or totally formed by 'subjective experiences and interpretations of events.'

What it doesn't change is that you've rubbed people up the wrong way in this thread, and that was the only point I wanted to make in the first place. If you've learned something, please let it be that people won't consider or accept your arguments if you resort to name calling. You're intelligent but you really need to grow up.