Cryabetes wrote:Are you from Michigan then? or do you [also] just really like Bells?
Not from Michigan, I'm just a huge fan of Bell's Brewery.
Tomisnever wrote:I knew someone would get snobby, it all preference man. As for me I love a good cheap beer, but i also love more expensive one or a home brewed. I think most people are saying what beer they drink in a bar, not what the best beer in the world is.
I'm not being a snob, and I'm certainly not trying to attack anyone's taste. I drink my fair share of light beer. I was just confused as to whether people were posting their favorite lighter beers or if they were truly unaware of some of the better beers out there.
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Cryabetes wrote:Are you from Michigan then? or do you [also] just really like Bells?
Not from Michigan, I'm just a huge fan of Bell's Brewery.
Tomisnever wrote:I knew someone would get snobby, it all preference man. As for me I love a good cheap beer, but i also love more expensive one or a home brewed. I think most people are saying what beer they drink in a bar, not what the best beer in the world is.
I'm not being a snob, and I'm certainly not trying to attack anyone's taste. I drink my fair share of light beer. I was just confused as to whether people were posting their favorite lighter beers or if they were truly unaware of some of the better beers out there.
Yeah sorry man i was in a really bad mood earlier, not an excuse but I'm not usually aggressive like that!
I like my beer like I like my women. Thick, dark, and chunky. So, I'm always down for a Guinness. Ninkasi makes some good stuff. Lots of the Widmer Brothers beers, though not dark, are usually very tasty. Not to mention they are local. They make one kind called Wild Blue that has a really subtle blueberry taste that overrides most of the unsavory parts of beer like bitterness and skunky aftertaste. I could drink gallons of it.
i'm from southern california and there's a little brewery down here called Stone. they are absolutely incredible. their IPA and smoked porter are so freaking delicious. and their restaurant is unbelievable as well. everything about Stone is amazing. haha
After having done a fair share of beer tasting, admittedly all in the states which I am pretty aware is debatable for great beers, I have netted out on red ales for the most part. My two favorites at the moment are smithwicks and moosedrool (a brown ale from missoula). On the light side I usually have Kirin or Kirin light when I get sushi.
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Actually I take back what I said about American Beer. I think probably the reputation persists due to prohibition and having only 40 macro breweries left back up through the 70's. In the last 25 years there has been an uptick in another 2000 breweries mostly specialty and micro brews.
Probably American beer stands about where American (namely Californian) wineries stood in the 70's. Which wasn't favored but were still very excellent beating out quite a few french wines.
American Pale Ale, American Strong Ale, Imperial IPA, California Common, and Blonde Ale are distinctly American Beers and many are excellent. Stella Artois, Grolsch, Harp, Becks, Heineken aren't that great.
Also alcohol content in many of the beers here are higher than people realize got example Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale - 6.6% Deschutes Jubelale - 6.7%. Belgian beers hit some of the highest marks but on average our content is higher than people may realize.
I think the problem is also one of importing. I wish we had access to many of the other great foreign beers not the crap I listed above. During my high school days I can definitely attest to having having only shitty beers around.
747Music wrote:I think Grolsch is an excellent beer.
I think the [at least part of the] problem is american Grolsch isn't the same as european Grolsch [courtesy of SABMiller]. likewise Heineken, Newcastle, Harp, Beck's, Bass, etc. - the bigger names don't actually import the beer, they contract out the recipe to american brewers who use their local ingredients and/or mass produce the product and consequently the taste and final drinking experience is compromised.
Lens Larque wrote:For a while I was wondering what happened to the Depression thread and I was not sure if that was good or bad news.
747Music wrote:I think Grolsch is an excellent beer.
I think the [at least part of the] problem is american Grolsch isn't the same as european Grolsch [courtesy of SABMiller]. likewise Heineken, Newcastle, Harp, Beck's, Bass, etc. - the bigger names don't actually import the beer, they contract out the recipe to american brewers who use their local ingredients and/or mass produce the product and consequently the taste and final drinking experience is compromised.
I think you're right on that one.
I'm definitely glad that I live in Canada, where the beer is awesome.
747Music wrote:
I'm definitely glad that I live in Canada, where the beer is awesome.
It really depends on the type of beer you like or drink. I honestly think the system in Ontario is pathetic (LCBO/Beer Store), but if Bud, Miller, Molson or Labatt are your thing then you are in heaven.
Even the best craft Canadian beers have a tough time getting shelf space in the LCBO and Beer Store. There are some good beers coming along more and more thankfully. The only thing that sucks is the hoarders who end up buying a huge amount of the stock leaving no chance for someone like myself to try unless I feel like making a road trip to Oakville or Toronto.
There is still way too much that needs to be done and change to make Canada a good beer country.
747Music wrote:
I'm definitely glad that I live in Canada, where the beer is awesome.
It really depends on the type of beer you like or drink. I honestly think the system in Ontario is pathetic (LCBO/Beer Store), but if Bud, Miller, Molson or Labatt are your thing then you are in heaven.
Even the best craft Canadian beers have a tough time getting shelf space in the LCBO and Beer Store. There are some good beers coming along more and more thankfully. The only thing that sucks is the hoarders who end up buying a huge amount of the stock leaving no chance for someone like myself to try unless I feel like making a road trip to Oakville or Toronto.
There is still way too much that needs to be done and change to make Canada a good beer country.
There is always a nice variety locally where I am, here in the Ottawa Valley. The only thing I can complain about is the price for the good stuff. Alcohol is sooo much cheaper in some countries, like Mexico, Germany, most of Europe for that matter. We're paying through the teeth for alcohol taxes. It's retarded.
