None of this would've happened if the album was announced already.CoBoC wrote:Hipster talk, all of it. Comparing art, I mean... really.
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Yeah or go read James Joyce's Odysseus ( Ulysses ). It is quite lame to compare or put different arts in some order..Magrathea wrote:I urge you to enjoy some Voltaire or some Molière in the native languagenoby wrote:I think literature is one of the lowest forms of art generally...
Oh and...gimme the album already!
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I think shit sculpture to be the highest form of art,its so exclusive and underground which makes me so much cooler, and after I admire it I eat it all up shit it out and make a new sculpture this is the highest form of art I know 
A clearance in a wooded area, you startle a deer, it runs into the pines. Vast turquoise lakes and icy rivers, crisp mountain air. A bald eagle soars above. The distant sound of a chainsaw. Redwood smoke
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areyoufuckingkiddingme.jpgnoby wrote:I think literature is one of the lowest forms of art generally...
Sounds a bit senseless. What about 05/06's interviews? You can hear both guys' voice, clearly. I just think speculation has gone way too far.coffee grapes wrote: I've thought of this..I was considering that maybe The Campfire Headphase was an album dedicated to one of the brothers that past away, which is why one of the ending tracks was written by one member...and then Trans Canada Highway was a solo continuation by one brother.
Question: Why do YOU think literature is very artful?
I think it's poor because it's very limited, linear and one-dimensional. I have never been genuinely touched by any prose I have ever read. There are some decent examples for good story-telling in the past but honestly I think literature is somewhat outmoded nowadays, and that alone doesn't exactly make it a good form of art for me. It's a shame best writing is still performed in book form pretty much.
I don't think many people have given this a thought, but if you have, please share why you have a high appreciation for literature. This is often just accepted by most people as a granted fact, so I'd like to hear, why?
ps. I'm not higly opinionated about this matter, just my two cents
I think it's poor because it's very limited, linear and one-dimensional. I have never been genuinely touched by any prose I have ever read. There are some decent examples for good story-telling in the past but honestly I think literature is somewhat outmoded nowadays, and that alone doesn't exactly make it a good form of art for me. It's a shame best writing is still performed in book form pretty much.
I don't think many people have given this a thought, but if you have, please share why you have a high appreciation for literature. This is often just accepted by most people as a granted fact, so I'd like to hear, why?
ps. I'm not higly opinionated about this matter, just my two cents
Haha, touché.What about books where you turn the page and sound comes out? My son has a few of those.
Written word and ability to construct coherent information for others to understand without talking to them is possibly the greatest human achievement ever.noby wrote:I think literature is one of the lowest forms of art generally...
Sound probably being the highest. Not music, but sound.
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I agree to an extent, but does that alone make it art, let alone a great form of art?fujee wrote:Written word and ability to construct coherent information for others to understand without talking to them is possibly the greatest human achievement ever.noby wrote:I think literature is one of the lowest forms of art generally...
Sound probably being the highest. Not music, but sound.
btw. what I originally meant is that the medium is not very good, not that the works of literature aren't and couldn't be art.
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Because it's inspiring. Because it's visual. Because it's beautiful. Case in point...noby wrote:Question: Why do YOU think literature is very artful?
"It came boring out of the east like some ribald satellite of the coming sun howling and bellowing in the distance and the long light of the headlamp running though the tangled mesquite brakes and creating out of the night the endless fenceline down the dead straight right of way and sucking it back again wire and post mile on mile into the darkness after where the boilersmoke disbanded slowly along the faint new horizon and the sound came lagging and he stood still holding his hat in his hands in the passing ground shudder watching it till it was gone." Cormac McCarthy, All the Pretty Horses
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Waaw, nice one! And at the sametime the answer to someone elses question on the last pageRoygbivman wrote:Literature can describe music better than music can describe literature.
I didn't mean to compare or 'chart' artforms, but I was somewhat surprised to see that every one who love's an artform enough to brag about it on the net, will consider his object of addoration the highest good. It's googles survival of the hittest at work there.
Relativisme rules and so do bananahumor, shitart, reading twoism at the toilet or any other form of literature, dancing, streetphotography, and even calligraphy if someone really insists. And if some of us want to be called loretta and want to have the right to have babies allthough technically they can't that's fine to me as well. But advertising I can't really consider art allthough some of my favorite artists were (and appearently still are) forced into advertisement. thus leading the topic back to boc because their music as well is used in advertising.
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++++++1adelinyenmah wrote:Whoever doesn't think Literature is a high form of art you should read House of Leaves.
That is true art. If you read interviews on how he constructed the book, and then typed it himself because the publishing companies had a format, you'd appreciate all the work, the fore knowledge Danielewski has. Only Revolutions is another trip by him and I am anxiously awaiting his "The Familiar."
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Don't get me wrong. I like music more than literature. But I just acknowledge, thinking rationally and hencing the purpose of art, that literature can do anything with music, but music cannot with literature.
Well.. unless you use spoken literature in music about written literature.. but that would be kind of a paradox, wouldn't it. So that doesn't count.
Purpose of art?
I think the purpose of art is to influence people. Every artist wants to make people do SOMETHING with their art. Enjoying/hating it/envying it/taking inspiration from it/obey it (lol)/ etc. etc.
Well.. unless you use spoken literature in music about written literature.. but that would be kind of a paradox, wouldn't it. So that doesn't count.
Purpose of art?
I think the purpose of art is to influence people. Every artist wants to make people do SOMETHING with their art. Enjoying/hating it/envying it/taking inspiration from it/obey it (lol)/ etc. etc.
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