GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Seeya_Later · Post by **Seeya_Later** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:50 pm

Hey, anybody notice that on Bocpages the page for "sunshine recorder" has a link about the Isle of Man? Click the external link that talks about a sunshine recorder. I didn't change it.
Could it be a cryptic clue?

bluesky · Post by **Fredd-E** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:08 pm

Seeya_Later wrote:Hey, anybody notice that on Bocpages the page for "sunshine recorder" has a link about the Isle of Man? Click the external link that talks about a sunshine recorder. I didn't change it.
Could it be a cryptic clue?

Just a broken link. The internet web archive still has a copy:

http://web.archive.org/web/200903010259 ... corder.xml

Seeya_Later · Post by **Seeya_Later** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:23 pm

Very cool. Although I wouldn't be surprised if BoC didn't necessarily name their track after it. Just a cool coincidence.

Stry Craty Bya · Post by **Stry Craty Bya** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:27 am

Lemonade was a popular drink and still is.

dp · Post by dp » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:38 am

Stry Craty Bya wrote:Lemonade was a popular drink and still is.

Speaking of which, I just made a tall pitcher. Freshly squeezed!

Elephant Face · Post by **Elephant Face** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:25 am

mechanismj wrote:
Rodheh wrote:
dp wrote:I discovered BoC back in 1999. But it was in 1995 that I (indirectly through Nine Inch Nails) followed the path that would lead to me to BoC:

NIN led me to Aphex Twin's 'I Care Because You Do', Warp Records and the whole 'IDM' genre. Then through Trent Reznor's Nothing Records I discovered Autechre's 'LP5' in 1998. After realizing that, like Aphex Twin, Autechre was on Warp (being distributed by Nothing in the US), i bought the CD. Then Warp led me to MHTRTC and the rest is history.

Nine Inch Nails is my favorite band partly because of what I discovered due to them and Nothing Records. BoC is a close second.

Looks like I have more in common with you than meets the eye.
Very similar story for me as well! First NIN lead to to Aphex, then mucking about on cdnow, I checked out the similar artists to Aphex Twin, saw the Twoism EP, had a listen to Iced Cooly and just about fell over! It was EXACTLY what I was looking for! For the longest time, I felt that I was meant to discover this band. I still do, but you lose sight of that when stuck in the purgatory waiting game after digesting everything they have available. Time. Is a funny thing.

NIN was my favorite band for YEARS. I attempted to collect everything they had done (all because of those fucking Halo catalog numbers!). I kind of stopped after With Teeth though.

OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL SO ON THE SAME PAGE

dp · Post by dp » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:36 am

those 'halo' catalog numbers were genius, i must say...

Culprit Tech · Post by **Culprit Tech** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:58 am

Only my second post on this forum - how legitimate this ( not-particularly-great) news is I'm not sure but I trust my source and it's relevant to the topic at least .....

I live in Edinburgh, have never met the guys face to face - once saw Marcus walking down Princes Street but didn't want to hassle the poor guy about Boards-related-geekiness so respected his privacy and left him well alone - but my friend who does know them really well seems to think that the reason for a delay in any material might stem from the fact that Warp owe them money .... quite a lot by the sounds of it and have done for some time .... make of this what you will - I spoke to him about this yesterday so consider this up-to-date news / gossip .....

warphead · Post by **warphead** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:51 am

Culprit Tech wrote:Only my second post on this forum - how legitimate this ( not-particularly-great) news is I'm not sure but I trust my source and it's relevant to the topic at least .....

I live in Edinburgh, have never met the guys face to face - once saw Marcus walking down Princes Street but didn't want to hassle the poor guy about Boards-related-geekiness so respected his privacy and left him well alone - but my friend who does know them really well seems to think that the reason for a delay in any material might stem from the fact that Warp owe them money .... quite a lot by the sounds of it and have done for some time .... make of this what you will - I spoke to him about this yesterday so consider this up-to-date news / gossip .....

Mmmm. Do I believe you? Don't I believe you? Not sure. If you are an honest man than it's an insult when somebody accuses you of lying. So I can't say either way.

There seems to be a lot of stories cropping up lately in this vein. Another one being that Warp rejected BoC final cut of the new album and told them off about, telling them to go back to the studio and try again. Like naughty school children.

Why would Warp owe them money? That's like shooting yourself in the foot.

Having said that, why is Aphex playing games with Warp? Beckett was under the impression Richard was giving him a new album in 2009!! Why say/play games like this with the boss of the record company? I don't know what the fuck is going on but sometimes I think the old guard aren't happy with Warp.

Who knows?

Mexicola · Post by **Mexicola** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:04 pm

I'll ignore the post-count for a second and just say it's an interesting angle and one I'd not even considered before.

If BOC ever wanted to move from Warp, I'm sure that there would be any number of labels out there who would jump at the chance to have BOC on their roster. The problem I guess would be (a) major labels wouldn't put up with the 0% fan/media contact and ice-age gaps between records and (b) even the more well known indies (Kranky for one) who would probably more more willing to play along, probably wouldn't have the financial clout to 'go legal' to acquire BOC from Warp.

I wonder how many albums BOC are signed up to release through Warp? Anyone know???

Interesting train of thought though.

polar sky · Post by **polar sky** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:41 pm

Mexicola wrote:I'll ignore the post-count for a second and just say it's an interesting angle and one I'd not even considered before.

If BOC ever wanted to move from Warp, I'm sure that there would be any number of labels out there who would jump at the chance to have BOC on their roster. The problem I guess would be (a) major labels wouldn't put up with the 0% fan/media contact and ice-age gaps between records and (b) even the more well known indies (Kranky for one) who would probably more more willing to play along, probably wouldn't have the financial clout to 'go legal' to acquire BOC from Warp.

I wonder how many albums BOC are signed up to release through Warp? Anyone know???

Interesting train of thought though.

I thought they still owed them like 3 more albums. Not 100% on that.

Negamuse · Post by **Negamuse** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:04 pm

ISTR they are under contract for 5 in total. Don't know if its true about Warp owing them money but it would square with the other rumours about Warp I've heard (nearly went bust, had to change direction sharply, several well known acts unhappy with them for various reasons amongst which Aphex was one)

warphead · Post by **warphead** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:11 pm

I thought it was 3 albums too. But I could be wrong as King Richard of Cornwall has a 3 album contract deal with Warp. So I may be getting my wires crossed.

Perhaps Warp are just getting irritated with lack of anything to make money with from BOC? After all they don't tour, don't promote, don't release new music for aeons. Perhaps Warp are saying shift your backsides into gear if you want more spondoolies.

I do sometimes wonder how Warp deal with Aphex and BoC? LoL.

saurus · Post by **saurus** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:28 pm

Culprit Tech wrote: once saw Marcus walking down Princes Street

Ha! That's cool how they're mortal like that.

Roygbivman · Post by **Roygbivman** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:37 pm

Am I the only one who thinks of pussy juice when reading the title Melissa Juice?

dp · Post by dp » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:32 pm

If they are having so much trouble with Warp then why don't they just release the record independently?

Kinski · Post by **Kinski** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:48 pm

dp wrote:If they are having so much trouble with Warp then why don't they just release the record independently?

because they have a contract, for 5 lps if i'm not mistaken. and i doubt warp would have any problems with boc's releasing schedule. every label has a few artists that are on their roster not for money, but rather prestige. it is also ridiculous to consider the problem being on warp's part. accept the reality, guys, stop blaming random people.

warphead · Post by **warphead** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:36 pm

Kinski wrote:
dp wrote:If they are having so much trouble with Warp then why don't they just release the record independently?
because they have a contract, for 5 lps if i'm not mistaken. and i doubt warp would have any problems with boc's releasing schedule. every label has a few artists that are on their roster not for money, but rather prestige. it is also ridiculous to consider the problem being on warp's part. accept the reality, guys, stop blaming random people.

Are you sure that EVERY label has artists like BoC? Not for money but for prestige? Hahah I doubt it very much. Not in this day and age.

m.oreilly · Post by **m.oreilly** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:38 pm

Roygbivman wrote:Am I the only one who thinks of pussy juice when reading the title Melissa Juice?

no

noby · Post by **noby** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:03 pm

Roygbivman wrote:Am I the only one who thinks of pussy juice when reading the title Melissa Juice?

Thanks for ruining that track for me.

Now I can't get that thought off my mind!