GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

Cryabetes · Post by **Cryabetes** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:32 pm

#introtophilosophy101
#welcome2theinternet

Vexille · Post by **Vexille** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:09 pm

too early in the morning for that shit.

are they referring to teh legendary black box?!

rdy2bz · Post by **rdy2bz** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:12 pm

nick47 wrote:
rdy2bz wrote:People, face the fact that the brothers make fun of us. The internet is evil, they just don't take us serious with our obsession. They send out mdg to raise our hopes and afterwards he keeps silent. No continuation. They put a black box with the very accurate knowledge what this means for us and then that's it. Disappointment guaranteed. But they don't care.

Become aware of the fact that we have to wait and stop making all those theories and keep our hopes up. No mdg, no website, nothing eases waiting. Don't trust anything until you can actually buy the new record. We only were fucked in the past.
shit

this makes way too much sense. Now im depressed

Some seconds ago I had a more depressing idea:

Maybe the bad treatment of their online fan base is their final revenge for leaking their old stuff?

MDG made no secret of the fact, that boc dislikes sharing music in the likes of soulseek etc. without paying the artist.

Most probably all of us have downloaded the old tunes.

Maybe the brothers think that we now have to pay.

They're no gods, they are humans like all of us. Maybe their feelings were badly hurt with leaking music that they never wanted to be leaked. And most probably they see themselves as the victims and us as the delinquents and so they just avenge themselves.

Waterbagel · Post by **Waterbagel** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:27 pm

rdy2bz wrote:

Maybe the bad treatment of their online fan base is their final revenge for leaking their old stuff?

i still am not convinced it's bad treatment or that they hate us. i still think that they just do things in a different way.

updates and such aren't NECESSARY. sure, they're highly desired by most/all of us (myself included), but if that's just not their way, that's not their way.

worst case scenario, i'd wager they just don't particularly care for us. which is fine.

Vexille · Post by **Vexille** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:07 pm

Dude of course they care about their fans.

But that doesn't mean they have to release something sooner because a buncha e-nerds can't take the wait anymore.

We're spoiled by the internet with bands being able to make updates all the time and us having access to the info instantly.

Also I doubt they are truly upset about the leaks.

noby · Post by **noby** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:10 pm

Vexille wrote:We're spoiled by the internet with bands being able to make updates all the time and us having access to the info instantly.

This.

Kinski · Post by **Kinski** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:04 pm

Banana wrote:
Rodheh wrote:
noby wrote: Distorting your world view is nearly always detrimental, realism is the way to go.
What's "real" though in your opinion?
Nothing is real

AND NOTHING TO GET HUNG ABOUT

Jonse · Post by **Jonse** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:34 pm

I highly doubt Mike and Marcus are very upset about the Old Tunes and things like that.

They gave it away. It was issued to begin with. They understood the possibilities it could become public when they first gave it away to their friends/family. I doubt they hate us for showing it to each other. That would not be sensible.

I mean, it'd be one thing if it were a REAL leak, something taken from their private collection not meant to be seen by any means, by anyone but them. It wasn't though, they were okay with putting it out.

Waterbagel · Post by **Waterbagel** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:20 pm

Rodheh wrote:I highly doubt Mike and Marcus are very upset about the Old Tunes and things like that.

They gave it away. It was issued to begin with. They understood the possibilities it could become public when they first gave it away to their friends/family. I doubt they hate us for showing it to each other. That would not be sensible.

I mean, it'd be one thing if it were a REAL leak, something taken from their private collection not meant to be seen by any means, by anyone but them. It wasn't though, they were okay with putting it out.

agreed. they probably didn't foresee that it would travel the world quite as quickly and efficiently as it has, but it's not like they could have rationally thought "it's not going to happen. it's impossible."

mechanismj · Post by **mechanismj** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:27 pm

Waterbagel wrote:
Rodheh wrote:I highly doubt Mike and Marcus are very upset about the Old Tunes and things like that.

They gave it away. It was issued to begin with. They understood the possibilities it could become public when they first gave it away to their friends/family. I doubt they hate us for showing it to each other. That would not be sensible.

I mean, it'd be one thing if it were a REAL leak, something taken from their private collection not meant to be seen by any means, by anyone but them. It wasn't though, they were okay with putting it out.
agreed. they probably didn't foresee that it would travel the world quite as quickly and efficiently as it has, but it's not like they could have rationally thought "it's not going to happen. it's impossible."

Think about when those tapes were made. The internet wasn't nearly as big as it is now. I'll bet they barely thought about the possibility.

Kinski · Post by **Kinski** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:42 pm

leaving the state of internet back in the day behind, when the tapes were made boc weren't even widely known yet. i think they are pissed it's out. i would be. they're probably emberassed by it.

Jonse · Post by **Jonse** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:06 pm

Kinski wrote:leaving the state of internet back in the day behind, when the tapes were made boc weren't even widely known yet. i think they are pissed it's out. i would be. they're probably emberassed by it.

Why would you be pissed/embarrassed that somebody other than your friend heard your early work and LIKED it? Old Tunes has been pretty well received.

Jonse · Post by **Jonse** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:07 pm

mechanismj wrote:
Waterbagel wrote:
Rodheh wrote:I highly doubt Mike and Marcus are very upset about the Old Tunes and things like that.

They gave it away. It was issued to begin with. They understood the possibilities it could become public when they first gave it away to their friends/family. I doubt they hate us for showing it to each other. That would not be sensible.

I mean, it'd be one thing if it were a REAL leak, something taken from their private collection not meant to be seen by any means, by anyone but them. It wasn't though, they were okay with putting it out.
agreed. they probably didn't foresee that it would travel the world quite as quickly and efficiently as it has, but it's not like they could have rationally thought "it's not going to happen. it's impossible."
Think about when those tapes were made. The internet wasn't nearly as big as it is now. I'll bet they barely thought about the possibility.

The internet is not the only form of something like that getting spread out.

Kinski · Post by **Kinski** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:29 pm

Rodheh wrote:
Kinski wrote:leaving the state of internet back in the day behind, when the tapes were made boc weren't even widely known yet. i think they are pissed it's out. i would be. they're probably emberassed by it.

Why would you be pissed/embarrassed that somebody other than your friend heard your early work and LIKED it? Old Tunes has been pretty well received.

really? you don't see how massive leak of stuff you never wanted to be heard outside a circle of your close friends may be a bit of a con? like, if i leaked your most emberassing journal entries from when you were 13, and even if everyone liked it, wouldn't you be a bit pissed? because you never meant it for mass consumption? because it's personal? especially if you're a control freak like bocs seem to be.

i mean, i'm sure they're not losing sleep over it, but i doubt they're happy.

Jonse · Post by **Jonse** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:34 pm

Kinski wrote:
Rodheh wrote:
Kinski wrote:leaving the state of internet back in the day behind, when the tapes were made boc weren't even widely known yet. i think they are pissed it's out. i would be. they're probably emberassed by it.

Why would you be pissed/embarrassed that somebody other than your friend heard your early work and LIKED it? Old Tunes has been pretty well received.
really? you don't see how massive leak of stuff you never wanted to be heard outside a circle of your close friends may be a bit of a con? like, if i leaked your most emberassing journal entries from when you were 13, and even if everyone liked it, wouldn't you be a bit pissed? because you never meant it for mass consumption? because it's personal? especially if you're a control freak like bocs seem to be.

i mean, i'm sure they're not losing sleep over it, but i doubt they're happy.

I see how it would bother them, by my feeling is that they are no longer bothered. That's all I'm saying.

Also, if you leaked my e-journal entries from when I was 13, I probably wouldn't care. Not sure how comparative Old Tunes is to that. It's personal to an extent, but tracks off it were released on final releases, so it's obviously not as personal.

Kinski · Post by **Kinski** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:38 pm

Rodheh wrote:
Kinski wrote:
Rodheh wrote:
Why would you be pissed/embarrassed that somebody other than your friend heard your early work and LIKED it? Old Tunes has been pretty well received.
really? you don't see how massive leak of stuff you never wanted to be heard outside a circle of your close friends may be a bit of a con? like, if i leaked your most emberassing journal entries from when you were 13, and even if everyone liked it, wouldn't you be a bit pissed? because you never meant it for mass consumption? because it's personal? especially if you're a control freak like bocs seem to be.

i mean, i'm sure they're not losing sleep over it, but i doubt they're happy.

I see how it would bother them, by my feeling is that they are no longer bothered. That's all I'm saying.

Also, if you leaked my e-journal entries from when I was 13, I probably wouldn't care. Not sure how comparative Old Tunes is to that. It's personal to an extent, but tracks off it were released on final releases, so it's obviously not as personal.

you lack empathy, my dear friend.

but the point is, they never wanted it to be leaked, and it's good enough reason to assume they're still not happy it's out. 'salli'msayin'

mechanismj · Post by **mechanismj** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:03 am

If something that happened years ago now as small as this, still bothers them, then I can understand the delay with the new album, what with all the psychiatric help they must be getting!

Jonse · Post by **Jonse** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:48 am

Kinski wrote:
Rodheh wrote:
Kinski wrote: really? you don't see how massive leak of stuff you never wanted to be heard outside a circle of your close friends may be a bit of a con? like, if i leaked your most emberassing journal entries from when you were 13, and even if everyone liked it, wouldn't you be a bit pissed? because you never meant it for mass consumption? because it's personal? especially if you're a control freak like bocs seem to be.

i mean, i'm sure they're not losing sleep over it, but i doubt they're happy.

I see how it would bother them, by my feeling is that they are no longer bothered. That's all I'm saying.

Also, if you leaked my e-journal entries from when I was 13, I probably wouldn't care. Not sure how comparative Old Tunes is to that. It's personal to an extent, but tracks off it were released on final releases, so it's obviously not as personal.
you lack empathy, my dear friend.

but the point is, they never wanted it to be leaked, and it's good enough reason to assume they're still not happy it's out. 'salli'msayin'

I am not an empathetic person.

I completely understand what they MIGHT be going through. Part of me I guess just believes that if they are in fact holding a grudge this long about it, they should grow up. Sorry if that isn't empathetic for you.

Magrathea · Post by **Magrathea** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:07 am

Kinski wrote:leaving the state of internet back in the day behind, when the tapes were made boc weren't even widely known yet. i think they are pissed it's out. i would be. they're probably emberassed by it.

Didn't prevent them from releasing MHTRTC, Geogaddi, etc. etc. So I think it's a load of hogwash.