Kinski wrote:
i never said you're not suppose to llike what i don't like.
Your opinions in this thread certainly seem to allude to such thought.
Also, I know what the doppler effect as well as nostalgia are. I mean, what is the culmination of those two terms? How does that have anything to do with MHTRTC? Also, I'm not sure I heard the doppler effect even once in MHTRTC.
i seriously don't get you. i try to be nice to you but you're like a brick wall and take everything i say at face value. i guess tool does that to people.
see, now i know you're gonna be upset because i badmouthed tool again. i'm just some dude from poland, why do you even care? let's chill out and talk some music.
as for doppler-effect, here's a quote form the band, i hope you'll believe them more than you believe me:
You know when you're on a ride at a fairground, the pitch of the music rises and falls because of the Doppler-Effect? That's another thing we love to do in our tracks, and it's a fairly psychedelic-sounding effect too."
from an interview about mhtrtc!
Not getting back into this ruckus again. If you really want to be nice to people, don't create opinion wars. Simple as that. Has nothing to do with the specific subject of the opinion.
Cryabetes wrote:but you aren't arguing over something that is important to you but not to me; I have opinions on the Campfire Headphase too but I recognize them as opinions, and not group consensus. These last few pages have been "I don't at all care for TCH" vs "TCH is teh gr8st, you're full of it" and it's an uninteresting, unwinnable argument in that context; If there was elucidation on why TCH was good or bad, that'd be a much more entertaining read than "It's shit" / "No it isn't" / "yes it is" / back and forth, over and fucking over. Gods damn.
Also, way to step up your game R. d3v3l has been giving you a real run for your money as 'worst boarder on twoism' but I think you beat him out here.
and lastly folktronica would refer to song structure + instrumentation, rather than just instrumentation.
If you consider yourself as one of the better "boarders" on this forum I am proud to be considered one of the worst. Go-Go Gadget Flame!
I had a similar reaction to the original poster where I was wondering if the music had gone and changed on me. What did it was focusing my listening on the delays used throughout the album, particularly the way the repeats evolve out of (or into when reversed) the original more prominent notes. It’s typical for a tape delay to have a low pass filter smoothing out the accumulated noise, but the feedback paths here seem far more complex than that. Not only are the notes played but the processing is played. The many instances of whirling, warping feedback being achieved becomes a repeated motif. Following those trails has made the listening experience far more psychedelic.
Fearless Flounder wrote: On the surface yes, it sounds more conventional and might appeal to a broader audience, but there's a load of really weird shit going on within those tracks that doesn't jump out immediately in much the same way as it did on the earlier records. It probably was their intention to make something that on the surface is accessible, but that serves as a decoy for something altogether stranger happening within the tracks.
I agree with this. It’s counterintuitive that something can get more important and interesting as it fades away. Surface as decoy is a good way of putting it.
With nice headphones, it's like a cornucopia of psychedelism. Also the sheer amount of layers of detail with different bits and pieces of instruments is really amazing too
