American Politics General Thread

Vexille · Post by **Vexille** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:12 pm

Rodheh wrote: I'm sick of this country and its abusive nature towards the world. I'm going to get a passport and a visa to somewhere and I'm going to get the fuck out.

Been saying this myself since I finished university in 06. Hope you have something to offer the country you immigrate to, lots of them are strict about it. Especially English speaking ones.

mechanismj · Post by **mechanismj** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:19 am

Some states are taking charge and utilizing the 10th amendment to nullify NDAA. It's happened in Washington and they're trying in Virginia!

This guy is pushing for it in Oregon and across the country! He does a great radio show you all should check out sometime!

http://www.prlog.org/11787905-top-rated ... -ndaa.html

aged sea · Post by **aged sea** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:14 pm

I've been watching this, about the other U.S. government, the one that no one "elects".

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... etamerica/

mechanismj · Post by **mechanismj** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:32 pm

aged sea wrote:I've been watching this, about the other U.S. government, the one that no one "elects".

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... etamerica/

This looks like a good watch.

I like that it says after 9/11 they had everything planned for the next 10 years... but let's not forget they knew about it before.

Project for the New American Century anybody?

Lens Larque · Post by **Lens Larque** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:56 am

Pimpanicaille · Post by **Pimpanicaille** » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:21 pm

Hey guys,

Aside from being a dedicated BoC follower, I am also a journalist. And I'm writing a piece on Ron Paul for my newspaper which is called Réforme.

I've seen that some of you here were kind of passionate about him, and I'm personally very interested in the man himself, and about his rather fringe positions on many subjects.

Would some of you that voted or plan to vote for him be kind enough to answer a few questions by email? That would be of great help.

I wonder if Ron Paul likes Boards of Canada though.

mechanismj · Post by **mechanismj** » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:36 pm

Obama invokes NDAA

Cryabetes · Post by **Cryabetes** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:16 pm

mechanismj · Post by **mechanismj** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:16 pm

For your consideration.

Purim.

First Iraq war draws to a close on Purim; After the slaughter of 150 thousand Iraqi soldiers.
Second Iraq war begins on Purim.
Libya invasion... right around Purim.

Now there is this.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/ ... 1ZuIHn1Kmx

Any thoughts?

mechanismj · Post by **mechanismj** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:43 am

Out drunk on New Years, you get the NDAA.

Out drunk on St. Patrick's Day, you get this...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/po ... artial-law

Maybe we need to stop drinking...

Waterbagel · Post by **Waterbagel** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:07 am

NDAA,
"free speech zones"
hr 347
peacetime martial law

"If a president can take away your freedom or your life on his own authority, all rights become little more than a discretionary grant subject to executive will."

Waterbagel · Post by **Waterbagel** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:15 am

ignoring the complete unconstitutionality of it, the illegitimacy of it, and the inability for anyone to enforce such a law..

look what arizona's up to

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in ... 47052.html

(assuming all of this info is even accurate.. hell, it is yahoo..)

Julian Candy · Post by **Julian Candy** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:05 am

Cupz · Post by **Cupz** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:59 am

Waterbagel wrote:ignoring the complete unconstitutionality of it, the illegitimacy of it, and the inability for anyone to enforce such a law..

look what arizona's up to

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in ... 47052.html

(assuming all of this info is even accurate.. hell, it is yahoo..)

Its accurate, and it is pissing me off. i've seen this on other news sites as well.

Cryabetes · Post by **Cryabetes** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:12 pm

I say 'bring the ruckus', maricopa county. See how long it takes until one of your elected officials breaks that ludicrous law.

Jonse · Post by **Jonse** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:25 pm

It is indeed a horrible, horrible idea.

What bothers me more so than the bill itself is how, yet again for the third time, people here are looked at as though we supported these politicians' nonsense and are occasionally blamed for it. I remember when I was continuously called racist for months by shitheads who hadn't even read SB1070 back when that nonsense was going down. I've gotten it a bit now from this, hope it doesn't escalate.

Waterbagel · Post by **Waterbagel** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:27 pm

Now there's CISPA: basically a new sopa/pipa.

Of course, we could try and get the entire internet behind it like what happened last time (well, i don't mean "we", but you know what I mean). But, whether it works this time or not, we all know that at some point the money will keep being spent in government to get this kind of bill passed, but the people's outrage over it will fade until it gets passed.

New forms of the same bill will keep coming. Are there any other strategies we could employ? Of course "bang bang shoot 'em up john wayne rambo" isn't what I'm talking about.

There's speculation (well.. better than speculation. It's what most likely happened) that the silicon valley absolutely stuffed money into the legislature last-minute to keep sopa/pipa from passing, and it sounds like that's what really stopped the bill; not good 'ole fashioned political efficacy.

Thoughts?

Julian Candy · Post by **Julian Candy** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:57 pm

There was a time when I looked at the phrase "I hate america" as just some hyperbole used for making fun of hippies, but the more that goes on in this country's political system, the more I agree with it.

zeitgeist · Post by **zeitgeist** » Tue May 01, 2012 1:25 am

Waterbagel wrote: ...
silicon valley absolutely stuffed money into the legislature last-minute to keep sopa/pipa from passing ... that's what really stopped the bill ...

hit the nail on the head. big politics is up to big spenders.

Julian Candy · Post by **Julian Candy** » Tue May 01, 2012 2:59 am

zeitgeist wrote:
Waterbagel wrote: ...
silicon valley absolutely stuffed money into the legislature last-minute to keep sopa/pipa from passing ... that's what really stopped the bill ...
hit the nail on the head. big politics is up to big spenders.

The downright sickening truth.