hell interface

derm · Post by **derm** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:38 am

i just bought a mini cd with soylent nights on it called Whine and missingtoe from v/vm test records.

is this rare?

Post by **Aesthetics** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:53 am

Do you consider it rare when it's still in stock after 3 years?
V/VM is a big joke

derm · Post by **derm** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:15 am

that will be a no then!

just as well it was cheap from a charity shop

cheers

sevenELIXIR · Post by **sevenELIXIR** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:11 pm

What else is on the disc?? I love Soylent Night... it sounds very gothic, like it was done in a large church... do the other songs sound this way??

thedisavowed · Post by **thedisavowed** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:47 pm

I think that's 'cause the primary sample in it is from a Bach piece... gives it that baroque feeling.

Goiter Sanchez · Post by **Goiter Sanchez** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:14 pm

sevenELIXIR wrote:What else is on the disc?? I love Soylent Night... it sounds very gothic, like it was done in a large church... do the other songs sound this way??

The other tracks are fairly ridiculous and not terribly serious at all... Since when has anything from v/vm been anything but a joke?

vvm · Post by **vvm** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:09 pm

Please allow me to respond to a thread where you slag me off just because i can.

Whilst all i do maybe one big joke to you all, you must remember that V/Vm supported and released music by BOC before Warp. Warp back then would initially not take the risk on BOC and it was left to Skam mostly, Diskono and V/Vm to put our little bit of money where our mouths were at the time raising awareness before Warp backtracked on their refusal to put the hi-scores release out first time around and stepped in to co-release their first album with Skam. To those of you who see what i do as a joke where were you taking the risks back then ? Infact back then i would imagine only a handful on this board knew about the existence of BOC.

The day BOC signed to Warp i was on the phone to Mike. He was asking my advice. At that time i told him "Warp need you more than you need Warp." Ask him about that. Oh but of course they are so far removed these days behind Warp generated mystery that you can't.

The fact they have done so well for themselves via Warp and they reached such a vast audience is great for them and reflects well on their own unique output and Warp's own distribution and promotion power.

The fact you see my own output as a joke is fine but i would love to hear your definition of all releases being a joke. Falling into debt supporting unknown musicians isn't really a laughing matter. Releasing 6CD box sets losing cash in the process because you like to make them affordable isn't really a joke and if you took the time to listen to the free downloads at the v/vm site of that release i don't think you would find one joke amongst the 72 tracks on that release.

Please define your use of the word joke because right now i could do with a laugh.

isawdrones · Post by **isawdrones** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:30 pm

Post by **Aesthetics** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:05 am

It seems to me that you defend this matter like it's something you've done many times before.

In the first place I don't want to make a laugh at you at all. My point of view is based on the HelpAphexTwin release that I heard a long time ago.. somehow I find it funny rather than a serious attempt of remixes... and yes, this says something about how I precieve it.
I'm a very open minded person but I never really liked the output of V/VM (the artist, not the label) except the song <i>Asymetric</i> as it fit's perfect of one of the best samplers of early experimental electronic.

How did you found out about this post this soon?

Goiter Sanchez · Post by **Goiter Sanchez** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:13 am

vvm wrote:Please allow me to respond to a thread where you slag me off just because i can.

Whilst all i do maybe one big joke to you all, you must remember that V/Vm supported and released music by BOC before Warp. Warp back then would initially not take the risk on BOC and it was left to Skam mostly, Diskono and V/Vm to put our little bit of money where our mouths were at the time raising awareness before Warp backtracked on their refusal to put the hi-scores release out first time around and stepped in to co-release their first album with Skam. To those of you who see what i do as a joke where were you taking the risks back then ? Infact back then i would imagine only a handful on this board knew about the existence of BOC.

The day BOC signed to Warp i was on the phone to Mike. He was asking my advice. At that time i told him "Warp need you more than you need Warp." Ask him about that. Oh but of course they are so far removed these days behind Warp generated mystery that you can't.

The fact they have done so well for themselves via Warp and they reached such a vast audience is great for them and reflects well on their own unique output and Warp's own distribution and promotion power.

The fact you see my own output as a joke is fine but i would love to hear your definition of all releases being a joke. Falling into debt supporting unknown musicians isn't really a laughing matter. Releasing 6CD box sets losing cash in the process because you like to make them affordable isn't really a joke and if you took the time to listen to the free downloads at the v/vm site of that release i don't think you would find one joke amongst the 72 tracks on that release.

Please define your use of the word joke because right now i could do with a laugh.

I'll explain what I meant on the off chance that this is actually James Kirby... and I have a feeling it could be.

In all fairness what little material I have heard off of the V/Vm Test label has been little more than tongue-in-cheek stabs at pop music and noise...

That said I have admittedly heard very little material off of the label. Were I to take the time to listen to more of the previews and downloads on the site no doubt I would find some stuff that I would dig.

I was a shit to generalize the way I did. Who am I to criticize someone who's actually survived on the fringe of a facet of the music industry for as long as you have?

vvm · Post by **vvm** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:45 am

Fair play for your speedy response.

It's fine if people think that i am a joke i personally have little problem with that but i will defend my output and the labels output from time to time when it feels right to. There's no need to apologise for your opinions as they are as valid really as the ones i make.

A lot of hard work goes into creating things from nothing and it's real hard promoting groups and artists very few people have heard of when you havn't got any form of cash behind you to promote things. Without low end labels taking risks you would lose artists like BOC. Releasing music on smaller labels enables groups and individuals to move to bigger labels such as Warp.

As for finding out about the posts here i can see on the v/vm site stats where people visiting the site are coming from and go to as i need to do that to help me monitor downloads and traffic to make sure the site is not getting overloaded. As i saw a few come through from here i thought i would take a look at what was being said.

I hope you took no offence from my posts as i was more curious as to your thoughts more than anything.

Goiter Sanchez · Post by **Goiter Sanchez** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:00 am

vvm wrote:Fair play for your speedy response.

It's fine if people think that i am a joke i personally have little problem with that but i will defend my output and the labels output from time to time when it feels right to. There's no need to apologise for your opinions as they are as valid really as the ones i make.

A lot of hard work goes into creating things from nothing and it's real hard promoting groups and artists very few people have heard of when you havn't got any form of cash behind you to promote things. Without low end labels taking risks you would lose artists like BOC. Releasing music on smaller labels enables groups and individuals to move to bigger labels such as Warp.

As for finding out about the posts here i can see on the v/vm site stats where people visiting the site are coming from and go to as i need to do that to help me monitor downloads and traffic to make sure the site is not getting overloaded. As i saw a few come through from here i thought i would take a look at what was being said.

I hope you took no offence from my posts as i was more curious as to your thoughts more than anything.

No offence taken at all... Please post more often as we could definately use the opinion of someone who's been in the biz as long as yourself.

By the way... Do you still have that 'Pig' pink vinyl 7" at your online store? I've been looking for that one but it's been allegedly oop for years now.

zander two · Post by **zander two** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:05 am

isawdrones wrote::shock:

I second that. :shock:

Just curious since memory is fading, how did we find out that BOC in fact is/was Hell Interface?

Goiter Sanchez · Post by **Goiter Sanchez** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:09 am

zander two wrote:
isawdrones wrote::shock:

I second that.

Just curious since memory is fading, how did we find out that BOC in fact is/was Hell Interface?

I remember them mentioning something to the affect that they used to do remixes of cheesy 80's pop-tunes as 'Hell Interface' in an early interview...

vvm · Post by **vvm** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:32 am

Would love to help you out with a Pig 7" but along with the place that release was recorded it's long, long gone. now and again you see it on eBay. Horrible record that one, but people thought they were being slaughtered when in actual fact the animals were being fed. Crazy field recording.

btw the Hell Interface version of Colonel Abrahams Trapped which was on Mask200 is one of the best electronic tracks of the last 10 years and yet you seldom every hear that track played anywhere which is a big, big shame.

Goiter Sanchez · Post by **Goiter Sanchez** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:39 am

vvm wrote:Would love to help you out with a Pig 7" but along with the place that release was recorded it's long, long gone. now and again you see it on eBay. Horrible record that one, but people thought they were being slaughtered when in actual fact the animals were being fed. Crazy field recording.

btw the Hell Interface version of Colonel Abrahams Trapped which was on Mask200 is one of the best electronic tracks of the last 10 years and yet you seldom every hear that track played anywhere which is a big, big shame.

Wow, I always heard it was made with samples of pigs being slaughtered... I'm definately gonna grab it off eBay next time I see it.

And I TOTALLY agree regarding the remix of 'Trapped' off of MASK200. A true fucking crime that such a colossal track was limited to only 200 copies, same with Korona off of MASK100. These records always seem to sell for 300 to 500 USD. I would love to hear these tracks at 45 rpm.

vvm · Post by **vvm** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:55 am

The prices of buying those vinyls is crazy these days. I remember years ago you could only get copies of Lego Feet direct from Skam if you knew them and one day i went into a record shop in Manchester and saw 5 copies of that release on the rack. I think they were about £4 each. I was totally skint and bought just one as it was all i could afford and then gave it away to a mate of mine who had every Skam release except that one so he was made up.

The mask series were great releases and it's a shame so many missed out on the audio on them or have to rely on badly encoded MP3's. I think it's great though that Skam never re-released the audio in a way though because they were special records and if you were into them when they came out you just didn't miss getting them.

Goiter Sanchez · Post by **Goiter Sanchez** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:07 am

Yea, I sure wish I'd had the forsight back in the mid-90's to grab them... I have MASK400 and 500 (500 is especially awesome) but I'd love to have them all some day.

What are your feelings on the SMAK series?

AnalogFix · Post by **AnalogFix** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:09 am

vvm wrote:btw the Hell Interface version of Colonel Abrahams Trapped which was on Mask200 is one of the best electronic tracks of the last 10 years and yet you seldom every hear that track played anywhere which is a big, big shame.

You speak the truth. I listened to it on the way home from work today and found myself wishing there was much more of this vintage/soul/funk/electro sound. I personally like V/Vm, and give mad props to you for doing what you love to do, I hope to someday be in your shoes. Cheers!!!

radiateme · Post by **radiateme** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:37 pm

AnalogFix wrote:
vvm wrote:btw the Hell Interface version of Colonel Abrahams Trapped which was on Mask200 is one of the best electronic tracks of the last 10 years and yet you seldom every hear that track played anywhere which is a big, big shame.

You speak the truth. I listened to it on the way home from work today and found myself wishing there was much more of this vintage/soul/funk/electro sound. I personally like V/Vm, and give mad props to you for doing what you love to do, I hope to someday be in your shoes. Cheers!!!

I absolutely agree. That track is beyond awesome.