I just don't get....

DaveJ · Post by **DaveJ** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:39 am

just another one, I'm a huge Floyd fan. But man, I HATE the Wall. My mates all love it. Hate the movie too with a passion. Watched it once tripping which prob made me hate it more lol.

Hate roger waters, but Pink Floyd weren't Pink Floyd without him either.

tiges · Post by **tiges** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:41 am

Synthestesia wrote:Coldplay AAGGGH
my friend was listening to a song of theirs and it had some cool ambient stuff
And I was thinking, usually the average joe things this sort of stuff is weird but have it in a Coldplay song and magically its ok. That's a very dumb thing to get upset over, I know.

It's possible the section of the Coldplay track you liked was actually "Light through the veins" by Jon Hopkins who co-produced the album with Eno. Jon Hopkins is good. Coldplay, as you say, are very far from good.

Jonse · Post by **Jonse** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:19 pm

The Telepathic Kid wrote:first off, in the first post Northern Soul said critically acclaimed, the only really acclaimed artists mentioned in this thread seem to be The XX, Godspeed, FlyLo, and the one dude who picked Kid A, all of which I dig.
The rest are boring mainstream indie/alternative and terrible dad rock.

One actually highly acclaimed band which I cannot get into is fucking Arcade Fire. I don't get it. I'm the only one, I think their music is overblown and over the top with nothing behind the show of it.

You're not the only one. I don't like Arcade Fire either.

But it's probably not good to be so judgmental. I'm pretty sure that critically acclaimed was not a pre-requisite, and that it could be something that is either critically acclaimed Pitchfork GOD TIER or something your friends like and keep recommending to you, as was also mentioned.

subset · Post by **subset** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:48 pm

That's a fun question to think about.

The ones I don't really get are these:

Red Hot Chilli Peppers
Apart from the occasional funky bass riff here and there everything these guys have done just annoys me.

Grimes
I've already mentioned elsewhere here that I find her music very very bland.

Metallica
Perhaps we're just living in times when their sound is no longer relevant or interesting. I'm mentioning them though because in Bulgaria they are still one of the most popular and loved bands ever, and even some of my friends have tried subjecting me to lengthy Metallica listening sessions. No, thanks.

Rammstein
Same as Metallica.

Nightwish
Again a massively popular band in my country. And I hate them with a passion! Symphonic metal, booooooring riffs, opera vocals, pretentious epic-ness... I just can't stand this! Irritating as fuck! I want them removed from space-time!!!

Bonobo
Does nothing for me.

The Flashbulb
All skill, no soul.

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:55 pm

Oh shit yeah I forgot Metallica. I can't stand them.

fujee · Post by **fujee** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:31 pm

Like I said in the metal thread, they WERE groundbreaking for their time. If they stopped being a band in 1989, they would have 4 very impressive albums which were actually very well crafted and important land marks in the history of that genre. There is a fine line to be drawn with that band. 80s - actually really good. 90s and onwards, awful.

The Telepathic Kid · Post by **The Telepathic Kid** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:40 pm

can I say most metal?

most metal, the only metal band I can really stand is Boris, and it's probably because of the more bluesier riffs they put into their stuff.

Mexicola · Post by **Mexicola** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:42 pm

fujee wrote:Like I said in the metal thread, they WERE groundbreaking for their time. If they stopped being a band in 1989, they would have 4 very impressive albums which were actually very well crafted and important land marks in the history of that genre. There is a fine line to be drawn with that band. 80s - actually really good. 90s and onwards, awful.

Spot on. Seems silly to say this now because of what they became, but for a long while Metallica were the darlings of the UNDERGROUND metal scene. For a long time they refused to do videos to promote their work, at a time when that was probably even more important than it is today and it wasn't until their fifth album that they really became Spinal Zeppelin.

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:11 pm

The Telepathic Kid wrote:can I say most metal?

most metal, the only metal band I can really stand is Boris, and it's probably because of the more bluesier riffs they put into their stuff.

That's a gigantic generalization that I would avoid.

The Telepathic Kid · Post by **The Telepathic Kid** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:12 pm

fuck it bro, I'm goin the whole nine yards.

fujee · Post by **fujee** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:48 pm

It's difficult to relate to Metal when so much of it is terrible, more so when you consider how close minded a lot of the fan bases are. But when it works and strives for some kind of vision or originality, it can be a really incredible genre. My metal days are truly behind me, but I still appreciate it as much as any other art form.

GH · Post by GH » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:46 am

TaoTapeTao wrote:
The Telepathic Kid wrote:can I say most metal?

most metal, the only metal band I can really stand is Boris, and it's probably because of the more bluesier riffs they put into their stuff.
That's a gigantic generalization that I would avoid.

How is somebody stating they don't get most metal a generalisation?

Has anybody said Morrisey yet?
It's not that I don't get him, it's more...let me see, that I don't like him, and I don't get why other people do.

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:12 am

Because metal applies to a fuck ton of bands and music... I just don't think it's right to put down an entire genre of music. There is more than likely something good in every genre. Even country. But you have to wade through the shit produced in LA and the real music made deep in the pines in Canada or some other place.

But back to Metallica- they were good as an 80s metal band but I can't really listen to any of their music it all seems so damned corny to me lol.

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:13 am

fujee wrote:It's difficult to relate to Metal when so much of it is terrible, more so when you consider how close minded a lot of the fan bases are. But when it works and strives for some kind of vision or originality, it can be a really incredible genre. My metal days are truly behind me, but I still appreciate it as much as any other art form.

This is true

GH · Post by GH » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:24 am

TaoTapeTao wrote:Because metal applies to a fuck ton of bands and music... I just don't think it's right to put down an entire genre of music. There is more than likely something good in every genre. Even country. But you have to wade through the shit produced in LA and the real music made deep in the pines in Canada or some other place.

Ah, I see . But, if he said he didn't get most metal that he has heard, I reckon that wod be a fair point.

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:32 am

GH wrote:
TaoTapeTao wrote:Because metal applies to a fuck ton of bands and music... I just don't think it's right to put down an entire genre of music. There is more than likely something good in every genre. Even country. But you have to wade through the shit produced in LA and the real music made deep in the pines in Canada or some other place.
Ah, I see . But, if he said he didn't get most metal that he has heard, I reckon that wod be a fair point.

Yeah I agree. I have to admit a lot of metal I've heard doesn't interest me but yeah at the same time I can't write off an entire genre.

GH · Post by GH » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:43 am

Well I'm pretty open minded I think, but there are genres I don't get full stop. That's not neccessarilly saying I think they're crap, it's more saying I don't get why they're so popular or whatever.

I can say with 100% certainty, that my mother doesn't get 100% of metal music, and that includes the all the stuff she's never heard. Is that a generalisation, or is it just a fact?

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:15 am

GH wrote:Well I'm pretty open minded I think, but there are genres I don't get full stop. That's not neccessarilly saying I think they're crap, it's more saying I don't get why they're so popular or whatever.

I can say with 100% certainty, that my mother doesn't get 100% of metal music, and that includes the all the stuff she's never heard. Is that a generalisation, or is it just a fact?

Well it's still a generalization by definition but it makes more sense because it's in the context of a generation gap. Older people would be more inclined to hate on that type of music especially because it's much more foreign to them. But I wouldn't really blame the person for this it's more a result of culture and tradition. It was the same thing with psychedelic music in the 60s and Blues in 40s and on and on.

GH · Post by GH » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:38 am

Without wanting to be pedantic, it's not really a generalisation by definition.

All metal music is crap= A gereralisation

I don't get metal music= Not a generalisation

At least that's the way I see it.

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:40 am

Yeah I guess so. I still think that it's a broad term and saying I don't get all of it might be a step too far because there's so much out there. I'm just projecting my personal opinion about music in general.