hell interface

vvm · Post by **vvm** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:20 pm

Havn't heard the Smak series of Skam releases, i see the Skam guys now and again always unexpectedly. Good people Skam for sure.

zander two · Post by **zander two** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:37 am

Do you think Bach was pissed about BOC using a sample of one of his hits?

Goiter Sanchez · Post by **Goiter Sanchez** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:40 am

zander two wrote:Do you think Bach was pissed about BOC using a sample of one of his hits?

Fuck yea! He's prolly doin' 360s in his grave...

The Other · Post by **The Other** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:57 pm

I hope hell interface make a comeback

radiateme · Post by **radiateme** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:02 am

The Other wrote:I hope hell interface make a comeback

Agreed, because hell can't be controlled anymore without that interface.

*everyone throws fruits and vegetables at radiateme*

Goiter Sanchez · Post by **Goiter Sanchez** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:30 am

A limited edition Hell Interface EP released on SKAM or some such would be a gift from above for certain...

dj_todos · Post by **dj_todos** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:35 am

Ive lived in Manchester all my life and it kills me the fact I picked up on these boys too late. Missed out big time :cry:

I still hit the record shops weekly for new stuff and to dig through 2nd hand stuff in Vinyl Exchange etc, but Im pretty sure nothing of the calibre were talking about will ever turn up. Maybe if ebay wasnt around then Id have a chance.

vvm · Post by **vvm** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:44 pm

The net sure has revolutionised record buying beyond belief. You can still find things out there but it's increasingly difficult to enjoy the thrill of buying and finding records.

I had spent fifteen years looking in vain for a real rare 12" on R&S and never ever saw it until eBay came along and bang, there it was, the thrill in getting it was fleeting as it was a soulless transaction but it was still great to get the vinyl finally.

Good shops in the U.K. are hard to find, there are a couple where you can still find stuff but you have to dig around to find things. Shops like this are easier to find in Europe though which makes for some fun trips abroad. Vinyl Exchange in Manchester used to be great, i have got some great records out of there, these days it's a shadow of its former self. Most things are overpriced and for sure if any rare Skam made it in there you would be forced to pay top dollar for it.

Cupz · Post by **Cupz** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:03 pm

Goiter Sanchez wrote:A limited edition Hell Interface EP released on SKAM or some such would be a gift from above for certain...

hell from above :lol:

Post by **Aesthetics** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:01 pm

V/VM you seem to be well informed so maybe you can help me out here; Why is it that some releases are strictly limited?
It happens a lot in the IDM scene.. and I still keep on wondering why it is.

sevenELIXIR · Post by **sevenELIXIR** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:35 am

For some reason there is something that keeps me wanting to listen to the story of xentrix... I don't know what to call it... a song? a poem?? the story is so unusual, and I've always had a fondness for computer generated voices

Goiter Sanchez · Post by **Goiter Sanchez** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:49 am

Aesthetics wrote:V/VM you seem to be well informed so maybe you can help me out here; Why is it that some releases are strictly limited?
It happens a lot in the IDM scene.. and I still keep on wondering why it is.

Well I'm not V/Vm, but <i>I</i> think it has to do with the fact that pressing stuff to vinyl is damn expensive; since a lot of idm and similar styles don't appeal to many people there usually isn't much point in pressing more than 1500 copies of an EP since you probably won't sell any more than that at the best of times... Better to make all the money back via a limited pressing.

This can also inadvertently build up a collector's market for early limited releases should you become really famous, which builds hype. In the case of BoC you have the original pressing of Twoism and the Aquarius EP which have become highly sought collector's items as BoC rose to their current status.

I think it's pretty stupid when artists who have a lot of money (like Aphex Twin) continue to release limited EPs and such in order to artificially maintain a collector's market.

Post by **Aesthetics** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:48 am

I know about the expensiveness of vinyl pressing but it doesn't have to be strictly limited because of that.. It's just that the supply and demand sometimes seem to be wrong. I know that Toytronic for example limit most of their stuff but if the demand seem to be bigger than the supply they do some extra pressings.. wether it's vinyl or CD, many don't really seem to appreciate it because they bought the album as a stricktly limited and now feels screwed

[It's getting way out of topic here

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vvm · Post by **vvm** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:50 pm

Well in the case of most small labels it's about pressing what you can afford because sales are way smaller than you would imagine. Right now things are changing in the way we buy music. In the past you would press say 500 copies of a 12" and then sell a few to local shops and then give the rest to a distributor hoping that they would then sell them which they often did.

Many shops are closing now and we are in a much more immediate culture of record buying due to the rise and rise of online shopping. If you want the new release say by Joe Longthorne there's no way you're gonna pop down to woolworths with the ranks of the unwashed when you can push a few buttons and hey presto, joe is in your living room performing his caberet audio.

When Skam did the early Mask series we were in a different time, a time when you had to search for records and these releases were word of mouth. You heard about them from someone and then had to search and hope you were lucky enough to find a copy. Skam realised that that is the thrill of the chase when it comes to record buying, locating the record you want. You could not do that today because it would be online and thrill of finding has gone, replaced by being on the right webshop at the right time.

Last year i did a limited 2x12" of Goodiepal audio, 100 copies on coloured vinyl each record one sided with stickers on the other sides. It was so limited at the Goodiepal's request and people were invited by me to buy the record should they wish. Each one cost him £12 to make and i think we sold them including post for £16 so we lost cash on overseas orders. It was a shame he made it so limited but it was his choice, not mine. We did made the audio free for everyone as well.

Sometimes limited is personal choice but mostly it's down to pure economics. V/Vm has been slagged off back in the day for doing limited runs, but that is only when they sell out, for each one which sells out there are many left unsold and no-one complains about those being so limited.