Is the Boccer religious?

2ndMOUSE · Post by **2ndMOUSE** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:06 pm

Its nice to find a forum where these things can be discussed in an adult fashion without it turning the thread into a car crash. Everyone is coming at it from different angles , different timescales and perspectives , so for me , its nice to say " this is where i'm at " and not have someone tell me i'm wrong. I've seen threads like this spiral out of control , so it really is a credit to twoism that its members are much more tolerant of other peoples opinions.

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:19 pm

saturdayindex wrote:I believe that we are all humans on this planet earth with a different cosmic experience, each of us, and that anything external that claims to be the one and only truth is only the result of ego-ic energy. Everything is all, and all is one. Every set of human eyes is its own personal reflection of God... within whom all things are created and have their existence. That's about it.

I agree. I think that the term god can be extrapolated to the universe and everything within itself. Which is essentially the hindu notion- same with the transcendental oversoul and all that. Everything is one unifying entity- a force or 'soul' if one wants to call it that- and its the glue that keeps everything together. I think in large our perspective on the universe has been manipulated by language and we don't see ourselves as part of it so much as individuals placed somewhere along it. It's different wording but it has a lot of implications and overtime influences our outlook on things. I believe in being- and to me that's what everything in the universe does- it exists. It's driven to be itself and build and grow and birth and die and be reborn.

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:53 pm

I'm sorry guys.. I have very particular ways of looking at religion/philosophy/the universe and I get carried off on obnoxious tangents..

Magrathea · Post by **Magrathea** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:49 pm

Well I am not, not even agnostic, complete atheist here. I used to be agnostic in my teen years but as time went on and knowledge deepened as well as reflection and countless hours of working out on the question I am now firmly sure of my conclusions.

Of course I have to say the conclusions are mine and mine alone, I can't vouch or be a zealot and profess it. That's one of the many things that irks me about religions, the way into which they corral the masses, turning religion essentially into a tool of mob control. Their road track for the last millenia is pretty awful no matter which religion.

Anyhow, just my thoughts on the matter.

HeoA · Post by **HeoA** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:57 pm

For anyone interested: http://JAHTruth.net/

youregonnaloveit! · Post by **youregonnaloveit!** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:36 pm

Christian har

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:29 am

I don't believe in religion- which is a belief. Any belief is religion so to speak. PARADOX

DawnChorus · Post by **DawnChorus** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:00 am

Ustillhavefriends wrote:I'm an atheistic Dudeist...
any other dudeist boccers?

I'd consider myself an atheist dudeist. I'm not preachy about it or anything; as far as I'm concerned nothing has been proven correct so everyone is entitled to believe whatever it is that makes them happy and brings comfort. I'm personally too much of a pessimist/realist to prescribe to anything.

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:41 am

I'm not an atheist cuz that word has taken to mean things other than its intended definition. Though I don't believe in god as that man upstairs either...

Also is dudeism legit? I didn't even know that...

louise · Post by **louise** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:27 pm

i dont want to be, but i fear being smited if i say im not. that sounds like a joke, im so serious lol.

DawnChorus · Post by **DawnChorus** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:08 pm

It's funny to me that dudeism seems to make more sense than a lot of organized religions do (IMO of course). I don't take it too seriously when it comes to worship or anything like that but it fits my laid back, peaceful demeanor

TaoTapeTao · Post by **TaoTapeTao** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:32 pm

I personally believe humans are supposed to build their own religion. That's what I do. I think words reduce belief systems and don't do them justice.

But I don't believe in god. I don't believe that if I should throw my questions and pleadings into the universe that it will necessary answer back. I think we're too entitled to our existence. Though sometimes the universe works in very mysterious ways...

mono · Post by **mono** » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:58 pm

There are some interesting ideas in Christianity, I guess. Paul is sort of cool. I think his hard-line universalism can be inspiring for all fields where things need to be invented and where the possibility of something new needs people to rally to it. Maybe it's unusable if you take it verbatim, and in the end it's paradoxically the core of the persecutory nature of much of what the Church has done.

What I'm sure about is that I find today's consumerism of ideologies very sad: "I will buy into this lifestyle because that's what I prefer" and especially "I will buy into this lifestyle because life's though and that's what comforts me". I think belief has to do with transformation, with what doesn't exist (yet) - so in a way you believe in something because decide that you must believe in it, because you have met the possibility of the new in some form so you decide that things have to go in a different direction. I think that any belief which is based on what already is, and which is oriented towards a world that already exists, is a bit pointless. It makes me sad rather than angry, though, because sometimes these beliefs aren't even pret-à-porter McBeliefs: people genuinely put energy and enthusiasm into them, and being sensitive to good intentions, I always want to do something about it. To hug them at least. But I guess they'll be ok anyway.

Bottom line is freedom to me doesn't really mean choosing what fits you best, least of all a system of beliefs. That's, at best, convenience, which is not bad of course; and more often panem et circenses, which is very bad. I have to say, though, that in principle I'm not against being able to choose for convenience. I am against it in some particular cases, and in most other cases it's kind of irrelevant so I just shrug.

Anyway, I don't believe in a god and despite rating Paul I'm not too fond of the Church (and various other forms of organised religion). But I'm not really an atheist either, because I was never taught that there is a god so it's all just a non-problem for me. I can't really take a stance on a problem I'm not even aware of.

futureling · Post by **futureling** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:43 pm

Ustillhavefriends wrote:
TaoTapeTao wrote: Also is dudeism legit? I didn't even know that...
It's really becoming something now. Still something of a joke in a way, but it has a lot of really interesting layers and ideas. At its core, its a stylish peaceful way of taking it easy.

I received a book at Christmas called The Dude and The Zen Master. Good read, a convo between Jeff Bridges and Bernie Glassman reflecting The Dude's similarities to Zen.

Amo Bishop Roden · Post by **Amo Bishop Roden** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:32 pm

Nope. Think for yourself.

If there is a higher power (entirely possible, if implausible) you do not know how he/she/it works, and neither does any other person now or ever.

StormedZone · Post by **StormedZone** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:57 pm

I attempt to stay out of religious discussions since they always get out of control, I don't really believe in anything. that would label me as an atheist but with the way people view the definition these days I don't even want to call myself one, heck I don't even like the idea of being labeled.
I just wish people would get along :/

Techboy · Post by **Techboy** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:26 am

StormedZone wrote:I attempt to stay out of religious discussions since they always get out of control, I don't really believe in anything. that would label me as an atheist but with the way people view the definition these days I don't even want to call myself one, heck I don't even like the idea of being labeled.
I just wish people would get along :/

Yeah I have no religious beliefs but I'm scared shitless of giving someone the impression that I'm Eugene the Atheist.

A_Northern_Soul · Post by **A_Northern_Soul** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:35 pm

^ me too! There seems to be a fundamentalist, almost religion-like strand of atheism these days.

I have no beliefs at all, but Richard Dawkins makes me want to go to church.

akrotiri · Post by **akrotiri** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:16 pm

i'm buddhist + apathetic

Betterthanyourkids · Post by **Betterthanyourkids** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:03 pm

Yeah I'm Christian, Lutheran to be exact