Tomorrow's Harvest

wwbjd · Post by **wwbjd** » Fri May 17, 2013 4:19 pm

I'm with you TD.

MindElevation · Post by **MindElevation** » Fri May 17, 2013 4:29 pm

thedisavowed wrote:
Moz wrote:
thedisavowed wrote: Am I the only person on this forum that doesn't feel this way at all?
Yeah where did that come from? If it says "ambient" somewhere it's probably because there's probably no better word to describe it, like most of their music. Also whatever release you look at iTunes it lists Brian Eno as an influence.
No but I mean - I don't get this equivocation between "ambient" and "bullshit". It would seem to me that some of Boards of Canada's richest moments "Olson", "Constants are Changing", "Over the Horizon Radar", "Tears from the Compound Eye" etc etc are all quote unquote ambient and yet for some reason there seems to be quite a bit of fretting in this thread over the horrible possibility that the album might be "ambient".

Don't get it.

Not to mention Echus. Quite possibly the most beautiful song never to be released.

Opothecary · Post by **Opothecary** » Fri May 17, 2013 4:33 pm

+1 for people that are scared of "ambient" BoC. They've been doing ambient pieces since the beginning...

Helios · Post by **Helios** » Fri May 17, 2013 4:34 pm

I think it was the transmission video that started the rumors, with people worrying that it was also an actual track from the album. If that were the case, it would be disappointing because it's 4 minutes of nothing. I don't know how that was extrapolated into the entire album being "ambient", but whatever.

Spirit Fingers · Post by **Spirit Fingers** » Fri May 17, 2013 4:50 pm

No but I mean - I don't get this equivocation between "ambient" and "bullshit". It would seem to me that some of Boards of Canada's richest moments "Olson", "Constants are Changing", "Over the Horizon Radar", "Tears from the Compound Eye" etc etc are all quote unquote ambient and yet for some reason there seems to be quite a bit of fretting in this thread over the horrible possibility that the album might be "ambient".

Don't get it.

totally. If I hadn't stumbled upon Zoetrope in the midst of an Eno obsession I probably wouldn't even be listening to BoC now.

Plus, Echus.

Helios · Post by **Helios** » Fri May 17, 2013 5:16 pm

thedisavowed wrote:
Moz wrote:
thedisavowed wrote: Am I the only person on this forum that doesn't feel this way at all?
Yeah where did that come from? If it says "ambient" somewhere it's probably because there's probably no better word to describe it, like most of their music. Also whatever release you look at iTunes it lists Brian Eno as an influence.
No but I mean - I don't get this equivocation between "ambient" and "bullshit". It would seem to me that some of Boards of Canada's richest moments "Olson", "Constants are Changing", "Over the Horizon Radar", "Tears from the Compound Eye" etc etc are all quote unquote ambient and yet for some reason there seems to be quite a bit of fretting in this thread over the horrible possibility that the album might be "ambient".

Don't get it.

My definition of ambient must be different, because those songs you listed have lovely melodies. When I say "ambient", I mean truly boring nonsense.

mono · Post by **mono** » Fri May 17, 2013 5:28 pm

What's your opinion on Brian Eno, Helios? I really really like Ambient 4, it's one of my favourites.

tubolcane · Post by **tubolcane** » Fri May 17, 2013 5:30 pm

Anyone notice how some of the inner art looks like video captures? I like the lines of pixels, maybe it's called Moire patterns? I have to read up on that..
Looks like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moiré_patt ... hotographs

wwbjd · Post by **wwbjd** » Fri May 17, 2013 5:31 pm

Helios wrote:My definition of ambient must be different, because those songs you listed have lovely melodies. When I say "ambient", I mean truly boring nonsense.

Uh oh.

ryetronics · Post by **ryetronics** » Fri May 17, 2013 5:36 pm

Helios wrote:My definition of ambient must be different, because those songs you listed have lovely melodies. When I say "ambient", I mean truly boring nonsense.

Agreed! Stars of the Lid, anyone?

thedisavowed · Post by **thedisavowed** » Fri May 17, 2013 5:49 pm

ryetronics wrote:
Helios wrote:My definition of ambient must be different, because those songs you listed have lovely melodies. When I say "ambient", I mean truly boring nonsense.
Agreed! Stars of the Lid, anyone?

Genuinely laughing out loud. Mexicola is going to come in here and open a can of whoop ass.

thedisavowed · Post by **thedisavowed** » Fri May 17, 2013 5:56 pm

Well - if you feel Stars of the Lid qualifies as "truly boring nonsense" then our sensibilities are too different to reconcile here.

We may be dealing with a semantic issue here - I was assuming ambient was being used to mean "beatless" here. If you're using ambient in its technical "Eno" sense - then yeah I can see your concern if you're afraid that BoC are about to release their "Discreet Music". (No offense intended - I like that record - I'm just giving an example of 'theoretical ambient' if you will).

However - if they're about to release their "On Land", well, bring it on.

Spirit Fingers · Post by **Spirit Fingers** » Fri May 17, 2013 5:57 pm

ryetronics wrote:
Helios wrote:My definition of ambient must be different, because those songs you listed have lovely melodies. When I say "ambient", I mean truly boring nonsense.
Agreed! Stars of the Lid, anyone?

Oh wow..

softfokus · Post by **softfokus** » Fri May 17, 2013 6:37 pm

ryetronics wrote:
Helios wrote:My definition of ambient must be different, because those songs you listed have lovely melodies. When I say "ambient", I mean truly boring nonsense.
Agreed! Stars of the Lid, anyone?

everybody take deep breaths for a second or two.

ryetronics · Post by **ryetronics** » Fri May 17, 2013 6:48 pm

softfokus wrote:
ryetronics wrote:
Helios wrote:My definition of ambient must be different, because those songs you listed have lovely melodies. When I say "ambient", I mean truly boring nonsense.
Agreed! Stars of the Lid, anyone?
everybody take deep breaths for a second or two.

LOL. I knew that would get some people riled up. It's just my opinion!

Mexicola · Post by **Mexicola** » Fri May 17, 2013 7:08 pm

thedisavowed wrote:
Moz wrote:
thedisavowed wrote: Am I the only person on this forum that doesn't feel this way at all?
Yeah where did that come from? If it says "ambient" somewhere it's probably because there's probably no better word to describe it, like most of their music. Also whatever release you look at iTunes it lists Brian Eno as an influence.
No but I mean - I don't get this equivocation between "ambient" and "bullshit". It would seem to me that some of Boards of Canada's richest moments "Olson", "Constants are Changing", "Over the Horizon Radar", "Tears from the Compound Eye" etc etc are all quote unquote ambient and yet for some reason there seems to be quite a bit of fretting in this thread over the horrible possibility that the album might be "ambient".

Don't get it.

I don't think I could agree more. I'll be quite happy with a load of 'ambient bullshit' thanks very much.

Mexicola · Post by **Mexicola** » Fri May 17, 2013 7:12 pm

ryetronics wrote:
Helios wrote:My definition of ambient must be different, because those songs you listed have lovely melodies. When I say "ambient", I mean truly boring nonsense.
Agreed! Stars of the Lid, anyone?

Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry...

Must........suppress.......RAGE!!!!

Helios · Post by **Helios** » Fri May 17, 2013 8:05 pm

thedisavowed wrote:Well - if you feel Stars of the Lid qualifies as "truly boring nonsense" then our sensibilities are too different to reconcile here.

We may be dealing with a semantic issue here - I was assuming ambient was being used to mean "beatless" here. If you're using ambient in its technical "Eno" sense - then yeah I can see your concern if you're afraid that BoC are about to release their "Discreet Music". (No offense intended - I like that record - I'm just giving an example of 'theoretical ambient' if you will).

However - if they're about to release their "On Land", well, bring it on.

I was using it in its technical sense, yea. BoC have many amazing "beatless" tracks.

Though - to answer the other question regarding Ambient 4, I'm not really into it. It's really way too drab for my tastes (same with Stars of the Lid). They would go perfectly in a planetarium with commentary, but I can't listen to it on its own..

*ducks for cover*

Naal · Post by **Naal** » Fri May 17, 2013 8:29 pm

Pointless post here but : just dropping by to say that I'm really really really (really?,yes absolutely) looking forward to hear this new album.
Loving everything about it so far, brilliant artwork, song titles, the cosecha thing leading up to this, the fact they've been working on this for probably 8 years....I mean, this just can't go wrong. It will probably be the best thing i've heard in years.
In the meantime been listening to their back catalogue again, and yes I can safely say again that they are probably my most favorite band of all time!!!

armotron · Post by **armotron** » Fri May 17, 2013 8:53 pm

Naal wrote:A lot of pointless posts in here but : just dropping by to say that I'm really really really (really?,yes absolutely) looking forward to hear this new album.
Loving everything about it so far, brilliant artwork, song titles, the cosecha thing leading up to this, the fact they've been working on this for probably 8 years....I mean, this just can't go wrong. It will probably be the best thing i've heard in years.
In the meantime been listening to their back catalogue again, and yes I can safely say again that they are probably my most favorite band of all time!!!

fixd. and agreed