Tomorrow's Harvest key twin secret

mc10101 · Post by **mc10101** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:02 pm

Boy, this BOCporn is pretty hardcore sometimes

egbdf · Post by **egbdf** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:04 pm

Can someone answer me why we think this is special when there are 17 tracks, and only 12 keys, and therefore guaranteed to be at least 5 key pairs? That and the RFTD/Come to Dust thing?

Post by **Aesthetics** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:27 pm

I heard someone coughing?

Here is a version without slowing down RftD in the beatpart. It sound pretty good but I still don't think this is intentional done by BoC.

justin · Post by **justin** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:43 pm

Boy you know it's a hard one to call .
I just lined up Transmissions Ferox & Sundown and the Exact Synth Pad closes out the track is begins in Sundown .

Not to get all Glass Onion Paul is dead . But the evidence i think is speaking for it's self based on this and the recent interviews .

Mexicola · Post by **Mexicola** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:02 pm

Aesthetics wrote:I heard someone coughing?

Here is a version without slowing down RftD in the beatpart. It sound pretty good but I still don't think this is intentional done by BoC.

I think that sounds pretty bang on to me

justin · Post by **justin** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:09 pm

Not only do the wave forms line up for Transmissiones Ferox & Sundown the synth pad is the exact melody and sound from the sundown intro . Both are cut from the same track !

Boost the volume of Transmissones Ferox towards the outro and you will hear the lead in pad for Sundown in the background .

optic · Post by **optic** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:49 pm

I'm absolutely thrilled all this is working, but what are the implications? This doesn't seem to me to be something that is just an exercise in "we can do this, so we did" by the BS. This all LEADS to something.

purgruv · Post by **purgruv** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:07 am

optic wrote:I'm absolutely thrilled all this is working, but what are the implications? This doesn't seem to me to be something that is just an exercise in "we can do this, so we did" by the BS. This all LEADS to something.

Who in the world am I? Ah, that's the great puzzle.
Lewis Carroll

BuShPuPpEt0 · Post by **BuShPuPpEt0** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:58 am

If I remember correctly wasn't there a rumor about a "double album?" Could this be it?

DdSsDd · Post by **DdSsDd** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:03 am

egbdf wrote:Can someone answer me why we think this is special when there are 17 tracks, and only 12 keys, and therefore guaranteed to be at least 5 key pairs? That and the RFTD/Come to Dust thing?

You're only guaranteed to have at least five key pairs if your intention is to have as much variety in keys as possible. Probabalistically, it'd be more likely to see at least one key signature with three songs, and more odds and ends. That's what most albums look like.

justin · Post by **justin** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:05 am

BuShPuPpEt0 wrote:If I remember correctly wasn't there a rumor about a "double album?" Could this be it?

I was thinking the exact thing !

optic · Post by **optic** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:15 am

YES

justin wrote:
BuShPuPpEt0 wrote:If I remember correctly wasn't there a rumor about a "double album?" Could this be it?
I was thinking the exact thing !

Gluestick300 · Post by **Gluestick300** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:04 am

Aesthetics wrote:I heard someone coughing?

Here is a version without slowing down RftD in the beatpart. It sound pretty good but I still don't think this is intentional done by BoC.

This sounds really good! I wonder why they didn't have it fade like this or have them put together in the actual tracklisting, along with all the other pairs.

armotron · Post by **armotron** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:31 am

qroniq wrote:
justin wrote:
optic wrote:At the end of the reach for the dead video, there are those two spheres that divide from the sun, while the original sphere looks like it's fading (dying?). At first I thought it was a reference to the trinity (yeah, I know, I know) but now seeing this, could it be that all of the twins are derived from the outliers (the "special" tracks) in form and/or structure?
I've also noticed in many of the tracks that themes that seem to follow each other either in unison or support and then suddenly change when one of the themes varies. I've thought a lot about how this (as well as other indicators such as how there are two separate "parts" to the songs, two columns of structure, seemingly two "sides" to the album, etc.) might be an insight to how the brothers are drifting apart. Constants are changing.

You're on to something ...

At 4:27 or 20 seconds till RFD ends the Lights divide in the video . If you press play for Come To Dust at the 4:27 mark of RFD both songs overlap and fade into each other perfectly and exactly at the end of RFD the drums should kick in for Come To Dust .

This also holds the same for the other matching tracks . They are twins .

No wonder this album took 8 years !!! .
I gotta go try this out.........!!

can someone who does this correctly upload their "twins" in full onto youtube, please?

justin · Post by **justin** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:42 am

armotron wrote:
qroniq wrote:
justin wrote:
You're on to something ...

At 4:27 or 20 seconds till RFD ends the Lights divide in the video . If you press play for Come To Dust at the 4:27 mark of RFD both songs overlap and fade into each other perfectly and exactly at the end of RFD the drums should kick in for Come To Dust .

This also holds the same for the other matching tracks . They are twins .

No wonder this album took 8 years !!! .
I gotta go try this out.........!!
can someone who does this correctly upload their "twins" in full onto youtube, please?

Im not uploading the full tracks that would be jerk thing to do so close after the record launch

re-phaelam-ed · Post by **re-phaelam-ed** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:47 am

i was actually think about this in a diff way....
one of the cosecha clues was attained by putting the two wavs together that canceled each other out to reveal one of the code numbers.

what if it werked that way for two of the tracks?

[most likely not]

justin · Post by **justin** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:50 am

Do you know the process of how they did that ?

I ran the overlaying tracks through a spectrogram to see if by chance a number would take form at the joint points . Unfortunately it did not .

Also assuming that there are 7 overlapping pairs and palace posy , cold earth and gemni are standalone tracks . That means theres 6 gaps between each matching pair . There could be a digit revealed somehow at the join between the 7 other joining tracks .

re-phaelam-ed · Post by **re-phaelam-ed** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:17 am

justin wrote:Do you know the process of how they did that ?

if the two wavs are the same you invert one channel...[not reverse] play them together and they will cancel each other out. if both have the code sounds embedded but the inverted channels code was not inverted then when the two tracks get played together the common non-inverted parts would be revealed.

SO that leads me to think the only track it could be done with would be Reach for the Dead. cuz it was released as the single, then with the album.

BUT what if the 24bit version had stuff embedded

S P E C U L A T I O N

re-phaelam-ed · Post by **re-phaelam-ed** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:24 am

or could leave right channel, then invert the left.
which recording did they say was mono? of had mono tracks. thats one that it could be done with

Weekend_Warrior · Post by **Weekend_Warrior** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:27 am

Transmisiones Ferox & Sundown do not work well together, in my opinion. Not pleasing to my ears at all

The Reach For The Dead & Come To Dust merger is a good one though. It almost makes up for how short RFTD is.