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Thank you! I am quite pleased with it.Alzado wrote:Hey nice job. I liked the imagery of the people witnessing the inferno. You'll find that once you feel comfortable with editing, you're going to want software with more features. That's how you know you're officially obsessed. Have fun!
I thought the same thing when I saw that video for "Nothing Is Real". Random footage that really did not go with that song at all.breadmaker wrote:another thing to consider before you begin - does there really need to be yet another BoC fan video in the world? there seems to be plethora of them at the moment, with new ones appearing daily, and while a few are quite good (this one: https://vimeo.com/69572175 in particular, though even it has its problems) the majority of them seem to be just old film footage paired up seemingly at random with BoC tracks, often with some kaleidoscope effects thrown in for good measure. might i suggest that the "old super-8 film of children" approach is beyond cliche at this point? i doubt anyone is ever going to top neil krug's video here: https://vimeo.com/8023898 so it might not be worth trying unless you've got something amazing up your sleeve. and if you do insist on using appropriated vintage footage, perhaps pay some attention to the content of that footage, instead of just proceeding on the assumption that *anything* vintage will do. i saw a fan video the other day for "nothing is real" that was mostly old and kind of banal footage of cars at a gas station, and also some construction workers. and even though it was competently put together, i had to think "THAT is how you want to visually represent this amazing track? someone pumping gas and someone building a roof?"
then again if you've got something wonderful and original in mind, then by all means proceed.
no need to get condescending. some people like your video, others don't, and that's fine. for me personally, i abandoned the "clue A + clue B = meaning C" approach to narrative back in film school in the 90s, and so it's just not something i'm receptive to anymore. usually i find that the artist statement ends up promising more than what the art itself can deliver. but again, this is my bias so please don't retort with something like "maybe i'll water it down for you next time." during crits in art school, that would have been considered very bad form.Alzado wrote:Did you guys ever play connect the dots as kids? Very easy game.
AND with that i'm going to bow out of this conversation! yikes!Alzado wrote:like my video or not. not the point. when you were in school, would it have been bad form to critique a peer's work by saying "THAT is how you want to visually represent ...."? because if I was your school mate and you said that to me I probably would have hit you in the jaw.
https://archive.org/details/prelingerdepechedaz wrote:where is there a good place to get old video footage from.
Valotonin wrote:Celebrate collapse because it will be beautiful x
i really enjoyed your short film. while it too was not without cliche (retro - but impeccable continuity), it really was original and allows you to offer such perspective. BTW - i tried the links on your youtube for more but they appear to be defunct. paul wrote:hmmm. valid points being made here on either end of the spectrum. breadmaker - you are in the enviable position of being a really good film maker. remember you abandoned an A+B=C narrative style back in your film school days. the vast majority of us dont have that experience to draw upon, so we may be a decade or two behind you mate.
on the other hand we have Alzado who was so inspired by this music that he did not allow a lack of experience or a production team (to tackle sound, f/x, music, scouting, admin., etc.) to stand in the way of his inspiration.
we all gotta start somewhere and from the simplest fan video to the Krug - there is room for everyone. more importantly i think as a collective, we with each (major or minor) effort, are telling the universe how wonderful, powerful, and so-much-more-than-music ... this is to us.
