Random 35 tracks tape in FLAC?

jlgui · Post by **jlgui** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:31 pm

I found R35TT in FLAC on Soulseek. I don't know if it's real FLAC or not. The running time is exactly the same as the version we already know but the sound is different. Maybe a different RIP or some kind of remastering? I don't know. Can someone help me?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7tvbt0c2rnfs ... de%20A.zip
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7485kr38ucyrw ... de%20B.zip

Basefree · Post by **Basefree** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:06 pm

Hmm, thank you, this is a very nice find. The audio here is clearer and hiss seems to be removed. I'd also figure someone tweaked the "originals"?

I ran A08, A09 and B06 through Audiochecker and they were all 99-100% MPEG, so this probably is not lossless. Someone with spectral knowledge should confirm this.

It still seems a lot better overall than what's been available until now. Most of those annoying clicks seem to be removed as well. I'd like to think this is the original source & someone made a very poor conversion from it, but it's beyond me how that could have added the tape hiss there.

It's also funny how the tracks are named 1:1 to how I have them. I wrote the tracklist in one thread here some time earlier. Maybe you downloaded this from a fellow Twoismer? (unless you tagged these

)

jlgui · Post by **jlgui** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:17 pm

I don't remember the nickname of the guy on Soulseek. I only saw this file one time. i asked some questions to the guy but he did not answer...

SmackSmash · Post by **SmackSmash** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:18 pm

Here are the spectra from the 2 sources:

I don't know enough about transcodes to say for sure, but I think this is just a filtered copy of the original mp3s. A lot of the hiss has been removed but you can hear some digital artifacts here and there. I noticed that you can pick out a few extra details in the flac that were obscured by the hiss in the originals. I think I'll be keeping both versions.

b0qurant · Post by **b0qurant** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:13 pm

I like the clicks and hisses ... it reinforces the mystery surrounding the release.

But whatever, I'm a total weenie about things like this.

Waterbagel · Post by **Waterbagel** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:27 pm

To some, it might be nice to have some of the hiss removed.. But you can't make a nicer, higher quality file out of a lower quality one.

In other words, "you can't polish shit." (mythbusters episode notwithstanding)

(also not commentary on my feelings toward all of the Old Tunes. I love them

)

Basefree · Post by **Basefree** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:18 pm

Waterbagel wrote:But you can't make a nicer, higher quality file out of a lower quality one.

In other words, "you can't polish shit." (mythbusters episode notwithstanding)

I think whoever did this seems to have done marvellous work. Haven't listened through the whole tape, but listen to the beginning of She Is P for example. It's a lot clearer, I don't think this could be achieved with plain filtering. Transcode is a lesser evil in these kinds of cases, in my opinion.

brtc · Post by **brtc** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:48 am

Most probably it's the same version I did some time ago

http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

Tracks are in flac just to preserve quality of original mp3.

As to mastering, I was bored and wanted to enhance a bit the sound of R35TT by removing hiss and using some eq and filters in Audition. I'm not a professional, some tracks may sound a bit deformed (for example noise in audiotrack A08 on mark 4:12), so it isn't a substitute of of original mp3s. I'd love to hear R35TT version of someone who is experienced with all this mastering stuff.
Thanks for appreciation of my work.

Basefree · Post by **Basefree** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:03 pm

brtc wrote:Most probably it's the same version I did some time ago

http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

Tracks are in flac just to preserve quality of original mp3.

As to mastering, I was bored and wanted to enhance a bit the sound of R35TT by removing hiss and using some eq and filters in Audition. I'm not a professional, some tracks may sound a bit deformed (for example noise in audiotrack A08 on mark 4:12), so it isn't a substitute of of original mp3s. I'd love to hear R35TT version of someone who is experienced with all this mastering stuff.
Thanks for appreciation of my work.

It is the exact same version, I checked some audio hashes. Now, your pointed source would probably be the go-to place as nobody knows what route those Soulseek files have gone through (although, with identical hashes, it doesn't really matter - just didn't check each and every one).

I'd like to thank you again, this is the best version I've come across thus far.

re-phaelam-ed · Post by **re-phaelam-ed** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:41 pm

jlgui wrote:I found R35TT in FLAC on Soulseek. I don't know if it's real FLAC or not. The running time is exactly the same as the version we already know but the sound is different. Maybe a different RIP or some kind of remastering? I don't know. Can someone help me?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7tvbt0c2rnfs ... de%20A.zip
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7485kr38ucyrw ... de%20B.zip

question...some alt track names in there. are those your concoctions? never seen them...
blueberry and its too orangey?

Basefree · Post by **Basefree** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:52 pm

re-phaelam-ed wrote:
jlgui wrote:I found R35TT in FLAC on Soulseek. I don't know if it's real FLAC or not. The running time is exactly the same as the version we already know but the sound is different. Maybe a different RIP or some kind of remastering? I don't know. Can someone help me?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7tvbt0c2rnfs ... de%20A.zip
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7485kr38ucyrw ... de%20B.zip
question...some alt track names in there. are those your concoctions? never seen them...
blueberry and its too orangey?

They are written here too: http://bocpages.org/wiki/Random_35_Tracks_Tape#Tracks

jlgui · Post by **jlgui** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:32 pm

re-phaelam-ed wrote:
jlgui wrote:I found R35TT in FLAC on Soulseek. I don't know if it's real FLAC or not. The running time is exactly the same as the version we already know but the sound is different. Maybe a different RIP or some kind of remastering? I don't know. Can someone help me?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7tvbt0c2rnfs ... de%20A.zip
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7485kr38ucyrw ... de%20B.zip
question...some alt track names in there. are those your concoctions? never seen them...
blueberry and its too orangey?

No modification. This is the original files i found on Soulseek.

jlgui · Post by **jlgui** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:34 pm

brtc wrote:Most probably it's the same version I did some time ago

http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

Tracks are in flac just to preserve quality of original mp3.

As to mastering, I was bored and wanted to enhance a bit the sound of R35TT by removing hiss and using some eq and filters in Audition. I'm not a professional, some tracks may sound a bit deformed (for example noise in audiotrack A08 on mark 4:12), so it isn't a substitute of of original mp3s. I'd love to hear R35TT version of someone who is experienced with all this mastering stuff.
Thanks for appreciation of my work.

Thank you for That! Very good job

jlgui · Post by **jlgui** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:08 am

brtc wrote:Most probably it's the same version I did some time ago

http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

Tracks are in flac just to preserve quality of original mp3.

As to mastering, I was bored and wanted to enhance a bit the sound of R35TT by removing hiss and using some eq and filters in Audition. I'm not a professional, some tracks may sound a bit deformed (for example noise in audiotrack A08 on mark 4:12), so it isn't a substitute of of original mp3s. I'd love to hear R35TT version of someone who is experienced with all this mastering stuff.
Thanks for appreciation of my work.

Can I ask you a favor? Is it possible to apply your magic on the recently found Boc Maxima in FLAC?
This is the edit in 20 tracks of the original cassette without any remastering :

Side A :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/heuo9ypnsr859ry/side%20a.zip

Side B :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ayd2o6r8rrurpao/side%20b.zip

Original thread : http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11107

TOYOTAセ&#1 · Post by **TOYOTAセ&#1** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:59 am

jlgui wrote:
brtc wrote:Most probably it's the same version I did some time ago

http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

Tracks are in flac just to preserve quality of original mp3.

As to mastering, I was bored and wanted to enhance a bit the sound of R35TT by removing hiss and using some eq and filters in Audition. I'm not a professional, some tracks may sound a bit deformed (for example noise in audiotrack A08 on mark 4:12), so it isn't a substitute of of original mp3s. I'd love to hear R35TT version of someone who is experienced with all this mastering stuff.
Thanks for appreciation of my work.
Can I ask you a favor? Is it possible to apply your magic on the recently found Boc Maxima in FLAC?
This is the edit in 20 tracks of the original cassette without any remastering

Oh my god, please do this sir.

brtc · Post by **brtc** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:20 am

jlgui wrote:
brtc wrote:Most probably it's the same version I did some time ago

http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

Tracks are in flac just to preserve quality of original mp3.

As to mastering, I was bored and wanted to enhance a bit the sound of R35TT by removing hiss and using some eq and filters in Audition. I'm not a professional, some tracks may sound a bit deformed (for example noise in audiotrack A08 on mark 4:12), so it isn't a substitute of of original mp3s. I'd love to hear R35TT version of someone who is experienced with all this mastering stuff.
Thanks for appreciation of my work.
Can I ask you a favor? Is it possible to apply your magic on the recently found Boc Maxima in FLAC?
This is the edit in 20 tracks of the original cassette without any remastering :

Side A :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/heuo9ypnsr859ry/side%20a.zip

Side B :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ayd2o6r8rrurpao/side%20b.zip

Original thread : http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11107

Done.

http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.p ... 606#217606

jlgui · Post by **jlgui** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:28 pm

Thank you very much !!

re-phaelam-ed · Post by **re-phaelam-ed** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:24 pm

jlgui wrote:
re-phaelam-ed wrote:
jlgui wrote:I found R35TT in FLAC on Soulseek. I don't know if it's real FLAC or not. The running time is exactly the same as the version we already know but the sound is different. Maybe a different RIP or some kind of remastering? I don't know. Can someone help me?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7tvbt0c2rnfs ... de%20A.zip
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7485kr38ucyrw ... de%20B.zip
question...some alt track names in there. are those your concoctions? never seen them...
blueberry and its too orangey?
No modification. This is the original files i found on Soulseek.

cool i havent looked at the pages for a WHILE
the version i had was from the audiogalaxy days

Techboy · Post by **Techboy** » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:57 am

Phaelam what bitrate is your version?

re-phaelam-ed · Post by **re-phaelam-ed** » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:11 am

Techboy wrote:Phaelam what bitrate is your version?

have individual tracks version and A/B side version
A 42:02 and B 42:09

both verisons are 320kpbs

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