15. New Seeds (5:39)

FernieCanto · Post by **FernieCanto** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:54 am

MrMessiah wrote:In context of this track you've got an album of bleak material then this one track that suddenly blooms into a hopeful thing (it is more "hope" than "happiness" in that second part I think) and then just as you get a handle on that it fades out and the little jingle appears. It's like a reminder that whatever hope there was didn't come to anything, the collapse still happened.

It could be seen the other way around, right? As in, no matter how many times humanity and societies collapse, there will always be new seeds. Until the Sun swallows the Earth, life will always find a way.

Jonse · Post by **Jonse** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:36 am

Well, I still stand by what I said. I feel that of the repetitiveness this is the LEAST repetitive. I feel that of the creativeness this is the MOST creative. I feel it feels like it's actually BoC.

I'd have no problem with Nothing is Real if it were a short vignette that faded in and faded out like Triangles and Rhombuses.

Imagine listening to Triangles and Rhombuses just how it is for 4 minutes straight with nothing changing except for the background now has some more effects and a vocal sample.

That's what Nothing is Real is for me.

thepastinsidepressant · Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:01 pm

i think New Seeds is the least sounding BOC track on TH. If someone played that to anybody last year nobody would EVER have guessed it. Great tune though and i think its the closest reference they have made to their MBV or any relative post-rock/shoe gaze/alt rock influences. I think this is a lot of the appeal too and the biggest TCH fans would easily love this one more, the guitars and all that. I also think if this was the next single/ep title, they would gain even more new fans.

It's not my favourite on it mind.

thepastinsidepressant · Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:10 pm

Rodheh wrote:After many listens I have come to the conclusion that this is the only "BoC song" on this record. By that I mean, the only song up to BoC standards in full. It is by far the best track on the album, and if the rest of the album sounded more like it, Tomorrow's Harvest would be album of the year and a brilliant piece of work.

i'd have to disagree, perhaps for the masses but they'd disappoint a lot of BOC fans. Its nice to have it in there but a whole album like that? nah, you have many alt rock bands to listen to. BOC aren't one, they're just a band that create diverse tracks that are not all from the same gene pool, and thats puts them with the unique advantage. They can do anything!

FernieCanto · Post by **FernieCanto** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:43 pm

Rodheh wrote:Imagine listening to Triangles and Rhombuses just how it is for 4 minutes straight with nothing changing except for the background now has some more effects and a vocal sample.

Well, we have Sixtyten and Rue the Whirl, which are not too far from that. Yes, they still feel like the blink of an eye when put next to Steve Reich, or Klaus Schulze, but to me they make Nothing Is Real feel rather brief.

Jonse · Post by **Jonse** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:12 pm

FernieCanto wrote:
Rodheh wrote:Imagine listening to Triangles and Rhombuses just how it is for 4 minutes straight with nothing changing except for the background now has some more effects and a vocal sample.
Well, we have Sixtyten and Rue the Whirl, which are not too far from that. Yes, they still feel like the blink of an eye when put next to Steve Reich, or Klaus Schulze, but to me they make Nothing Is Real feel rather brief.

Completely, completely disagree. Both of those tracks change far more than Nothing is Real does and even still, they have more variation in just one verse than Nothing is Real does.

Jonse · Post by **Jonse** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:15 pm

thepastinsidepressant wrote:
Rodheh wrote:After many listens I have come to the conclusion that this is the only "BoC song" on this record. By that I mean, the only song up to BoC standards in full. It is by far the best track on the album, and if the rest of the album sounded more like it, Tomorrow's Harvest would be album of the year and a brilliant piece of work.
i'd have to disagree, perhaps for the masses but they'd disappoint a lot of BOC fans. Its nice to have it in there but a whole album like that? nah, you have many alt rock bands to listen to. BOC aren't one, they're just a band that create diverse tracks that are not all from the same gene pool, and thats puts them with the unique advantage. They can do anything!

I never said I wanted a whole album like that one song in terms of sound. You misunderstood me.

I want a whole album that sounds more like Boards of Canada, not just on the surface, underneath - in the structure. That song has it. Few others on TH do.

Saakki · Post by **Saakki** » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:18 am

This track reminds me of Eye of the Tiger (especially the beginning). Can't help it

Fireal420 · Post by **Fireal420** » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:07 am

thepastinsidepressant wrote:i think New Seeds is the least sounding BOC track on TH. If someone played that to anybody last year nobody would EVER have guessed it. Great tune though and i think its the closest reference they have made to their MBV or any relative post-rock/shoe gaze/alt rock influences. I think this is a lot of the appeal too and the biggest TCH fans would easily love this one more, the guitars and all that. I also think if this was the next single/ep title, they would gain even more new fans.

It's not my favourite on it mind.

thats a very good way to put it. had new seeds been leaked a year in advance, people would laugh and immediately pass it off as not being authentic.

Skyraider · Post by **Skyraider** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:46 pm

Once the chords come in at 1:24, is anyone else hearing a faint squealing pig sound at the tail end of each note?

naicob · Post by **naicob** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:59 pm

I love the album and have listened to it too many times to count at this point, but this is the one song that does absolutely nothing for me. It makes me feel somewhat embarrassed, if that makes any sense.

Yeah That's Right · Post by **Yeah That's Right** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:49 pm

That is weird, because this is the track that 'speaks to me' on a basic emotional level. It has no words or samples and yet it's one of those songs that has so much feeling in it, similarly to Nothing Is Real, which I think is something a lot of tracks on this album lack - like White Cyclosa, which I find very empty and dull and which doesn't do anything much for me... This track is like a midpoint between the older BoC songs we know and love and the new direction of this album. It was my favourite track on TH from the start, and still is. I just think the chord progressions and melodies are beautiful throughout. One of the best things they've ever done, in my humble opinion - maybe even in my top 5 BoC tracks.

purgruv · Post by **purgruv** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:10 pm

purgruv wrote:I'm betting on this one being the next EP release, in my view.

It would also go down very well in the clubs.

Who'd a thunk it? !!!

Twoist · Post by **Twoist** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:40 am

Eight fucking pages. Over a year on and eight mere pages. Sheesh

This is still the best thing on the album. When the track flowers and mutates into a new and beautiful thing, I don't think there is *anything* in the Boards repertoire that describes that feeling of 'vague optimism' more than this. Hopeful but ultimately pointless. Hope for hope's sake. After all this time I'm even more certain that no-one else could have achieved this sort of tangible feeling in a piece of music.

Valotonin · Post by **Valotonin** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:18 am

Something I noticed about new seeds in particular, as well as the majority of TH, is it is the first example i can hear of boards using computers to decay sound as opposed to old analogue equipment (it sounds like they are using both when needed). The kind of thing you get when you speed up and slow down a track in an editor too many times and it starts to tear apart sonically, but I think it is very deliberately done that way. The result is something that starts to sound like cracked bricks in rows of urban, pollution stained houses.

As for the moment of serenity at the end, it really gets to me. Its like watching the world in fast motion and having cities and people being created and decaying only to be replaced by waves of the new generations of architecture and living souls. It's both beautifully sad and comforting at the same time.

"Being a father fills you with a healthy understanding of your own mortality"

sorry about the length of the post but i really feel this track deserves it. I'm almost scared to write my true opinions on the tracks on TH because giving people an internet borne existential crises before they go to work in the morning will surely not result in good karma.

Negamuse · Post by **Negamuse** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:52 pm

Yeah, this is a special tune alright.

mc10101 · Post by **mc10101** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:37 pm

It's tha bass

green calx · Post by **green calx** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:44 am

green calx · Post by **green calx** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:44 pm

Try to listen carefully to the left channel near the ending. (before jingle)

starts near 3:40.

Valotonin · Post by **Valotonin** » Fri May 01, 2015 12:36 pm

Just so reflective of the modern urban habitat. that dirty synth that comes in at 1:35 is almost too perfect. It must have taken them forever to get that particular sound it is like it's coated in a hundred layers of sickly pollution dust. The end, to me, is the rain cleansing the earth temporarily of all humans have poisoned it with.

^ And yeah, calx. The swirling static/ rain noises at that point almost control the shivers that one gets when listening to it/

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