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- Twentington
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This is really cool. I love those scrambled images. Something really interesting about pirate radio, in a cloak and dagger sort of way. I too hope the plot thickens!
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- green calx
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If it's official, we well know that, as they said, patience is virtue.
btw, any more replies from bochf@gmail.com?
btw, any more replies from bochf@gmail.com?
- North by North
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This does not seem authentic for numerous reasons, a few:
1. "Remember Waco" does not seem like a message they'd send. Just feels off to me.
2. A gmail account also feels off. I'd think it'd be something less standard, I dunno.
3. If a boxset or re-release is in the works, I wouldn't think they'd broadcast it as has been heard. The artwork also feels like a half-assed scan job.
But mdg was quick to dismiss the trailer rumor the other week, but has yet to comment on this. Would obviously love for this to be a thickening plot, but things don't feel right.
1. "Remember Waco" does not seem like a message they'd send. Just feels off to me.
2. A gmail account also feels off. I'd think it'd be something less standard, I dunno.
3. If a boxset or re-release is in the works, I wouldn't think they'd broadcast it as has been heard. The artwork also feels like a half-assed scan job.
But mdg was quick to dismiss the trailer rumor the other week, but has yet to comment on this. Would obviously love for this to be a thickening plot, but things don't feel right.
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- North by North
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North by North wrote:This does not seem authentic for numerous reasons, a few:
1. "Remember Waco" does not seem like a message they'd send. Just feels off to me.
2. A gmail account also feels off. I'd think it'd be something less standard, I dunno.
3. If a boxset or re-release is in the works, I wouldn't think they'd broadcast it as has been heard. The artwork also feels like a half-assed scan job.
But mdg was quick to dismiss the trailer rumor the other week, but has yet to comment on this. Would obviously love for this to be a thickening plot, but things don't feel right.
And that it'd be one hell of an illegal PR job
Of course it's not "authentic" or "official". First and foremost because pirate broadcasting is illegal. It's just amateur radio keen fans broadcasting BoC over the air. About the fucking time if you ask me 
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Ya, definitely looks that way to me too. Man is this super cool though. I've already listened to the 2 mp3 recordings like 3 times already, I'm diggin on the signal effect for some reason, and learning about shortwave is fun. Hopefully someone gets to record more. Thanks for bringing it all up akrotiri!
One thing that's had me curious is their recognition of themes. I could easily be missing something key, who knows, but I like where they're taking me at least, it's like a new fan buddy kinda thing. In the middle of the misspellings and other hints of it being a notquiterabid fan, they drew a thematic connection between Beautiful Place and TH, especially Jacquard...something I hadn't seen or thought of (has anyone else mentioned it?). Maybe it's just a coincidental accident on their part, but it could be a recognition that Albert Jacquard's philosophical/ethical views (including but even beyond degrowth) fit very well with the movements Roden fights for...who knows, maybe even more in terms of a BOC message than the Jacquard loom vs the song's structure (even though that connection fits so well I'd have to guess it was an intended double-meaning).
What pushed it over the edge for me was drawing back and looking at TH's theme as a whole. I had a feeling about it, but just from my own views on things, which made me think they were influencing what I was seeing. My personal interpretation up until now has wavered between "you reap what you sow" and a more grim "fire and brimstome coming if you don't watch out". I've had a hard time reconciling a fire/brimstone-from-above belief with how cerebral BOC is, but if the connection BOCHF is drawing here is right between the two albums, I see less of that kind of message and more "stray too far from natural paths and be destroyed by the natural result". That fits my view of the guys a lot better. Philosophically, it seems to fit the religious militant aspect of Beautiful Place's theme less and something as simple as peaceful anarchy or even 'simple living' more (ex. ideas like Native America had it right, or government by small community in order to avoid a downslope toward tyranny). It seems to fit Marcus's mentions of political message in the new album very well too...like 'learn from history, or reap what you sow' in terms of society's growth and trends, what society as a whole values as important these days compared to the past, etc...look at current event indicators (especially recent political ones, ugh) as evidence that the current path is maybe not the best path to grow toward.
Anyway, who knows, maybe it's just a combo of me overnerding it and my own philosophical angle. The Waco date's had me curious too though. Maybe someone intimate w/Waco knows, but the only thing I can see significant about 1/9 was the first time the FBI/ATF started investigating the Weavers in Idaho (leading to what happened at Ruby Ridge) in 1992? (ok yeah, Wikipedia at least). I don't know what the exact date in January it was, I wish I did (I looked, couldn't find anything). If so though, from an anarchist standpoint (as opposed to an extreme religious standpoint) that'd probably be a significant date, it's the first sign of government action in that whole anti-government blowup of the time (I know of Ruby Ridge and Waco, not sure if there's more...I just remember public backlash against the exposed shadiness of law enforcement, a lot of backlash and a lot of shadiness).
One thing that's had me curious is their recognition of themes. I could easily be missing something key, who knows, but I like where they're taking me at least, it's like a new fan buddy kinda thing. In the middle of the misspellings and other hints of it being a notquiterabid fan, they drew a thematic connection between Beautiful Place and TH, especially Jacquard...something I hadn't seen or thought of (has anyone else mentioned it?). Maybe it's just a coincidental accident on their part, but it could be a recognition that Albert Jacquard's philosophical/ethical views (including but even beyond degrowth) fit very well with the movements Roden fights for...who knows, maybe even more in terms of a BOC message than the Jacquard loom vs the song's structure (even though that connection fits so well I'd have to guess it was an intended double-meaning).
What pushed it over the edge for me was drawing back and looking at TH's theme as a whole. I had a feeling about it, but just from my own views on things, which made me think they were influencing what I was seeing. My personal interpretation up until now has wavered between "you reap what you sow" and a more grim "fire and brimstome coming if you don't watch out". I've had a hard time reconciling a fire/brimstone-from-above belief with how cerebral BOC is, but if the connection BOCHF is drawing here is right between the two albums, I see less of that kind of message and more "stray too far from natural paths and be destroyed by the natural result". That fits my view of the guys a lot better. Philosophically, it seems to fit the religious militant aspect of Beautiful Place's theme less and something as simple as peaceful anarchy or even 'simple living' more (ex. ideas like Native America had it right, or government by small community in order to avoid a downslope toward tyranny). It seems to fit Marcus's mentions of political message in the new album very well too...like 'learn from history, or reap what you sow' in terms of society's growth and trends, what society as a whole values as important these days compared to the past, etc...look at current event indicators (especially recent political ones, ugh) as evidence that the current path is maybe not the best path to grow toward.
Anyway, who knows, maybe it's just a combo of me overnerding it and my own philosophical angle. The Waco date's had me curious too though. Maybe someone intimate w/Waco knows, but the only thing I can see significant about 1/9 was the first time the FBI/ATF started investigating the Weavers in Idaho (leading to what happened at Ruby Ridge) in 1992? (ok yeah, Wikipedia at least). I don't know what the exact date in January it was, I wish I did (I looked, couldn't find anything). If so though, from an anarchist standpoint (as opposed to an extreme religious standpoint) that'd probably be a significant date, it's the first sign of government action in that whole anti-government blowup of the time (I know of Ruby Ridge and Waco, not sure if there's more...I just remember public backlash against the exposed shadiness of law enforcement, a lot of backlash and a lot of shadiness).
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Yeah, I'm going to jump on the "not official" bandwagon. Nonetheless, I think it's a REALLY interesting idea. Whoever operates this is to be commended, in my opinion.
I know very little about shortwave radio. I really want to learn more, though. It seems kinda in the same vein as pirate analog TV stations, which I am very interested in.
I know very little about shortwave radio. I really want to learn more, though. It seems kinda in the same vein as pirate analog TV stations, which I am very interested in.
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Whoever it is they're into the anonymity of it, doing stuff like signing their messages directly as 'UNID' heh. The way they say things like TH is "a favorite of many" there's no way I can see it's BOC (lots of love for them though). The 1st 2 recordings from akrotiri's page 1 update sound the best to me so far, but if you're liking those there are more out there, just more staticky (ramping down eq bands at >= 3khz helps some, you just lose some highs). There's stuff on archive.org, so you can do like this or this, but I'm keeping an eye on hfunderground too, that place is pretty slick.
The whole thing is kinda sucking me in, I'm already nerding out and "window shopping" for a portable receiver (that's my anti-budget self conning, along with "hey not a transceiver"). The analog tv idea looks cool. Funny how we just throw things away.
The whole thing is kinda sucking me in, I'm already nerding out and "window shopping" for a portable receiver (that's my anti-budget self conning, along with "hey not a transceiver"). The analog tv idea looks cool. Funny how we just throw things away.
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